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Key GOP holdout on Trump’s ‘big, beautiful bill’ calls for deeper cuts to Medicaid, ‘Green New Deal’ spending (only 5.67 years left)
NY Post ^ | 5/17/25 | Josh Christenson

Posted on 05/17/2025 4:19:21 PM PDT by Libloather

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To: Libloather

Send 40 million illegals home and suddenly Medicaid won’t be nearly as expensive.


21 posted on 05/17/2025 5:27:00 PM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: Arcadian Empire

I think you might have meant Medicare. However you make a good point. No matter the facts all people will hear “They are killing the most vulnerable!” Also the “cuts” will be used as a pro abortion talking point. “Abortion is needed because Medicaid cuts mean childbirth is no longer an affordable option.”

Is cutting fraud and making able bodied adults work a good idea, yes. But the Republicans lost the propaganda war. And the reality is no matter how reasonable any changes to the Medicaid budget are we will lose Congress if they are seen as targeting the poor for the benefit of the rich.

It’s a big government, there must be other places to pull waste and fraud from.


22 posted on 05/17/2025 5:31:02 PM PDT by lastchance (Cognovit Dominus qui sunt eius.)
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To: tennmountainman

The GOP’s refusal to get serious, fight, and get their 💩 together is precisely why I left that worthless cuck party 4 years ago to simply be an independent conservative.


23 posted on 05/17/2025 5:35:49 PM PDT by MachIV
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To: Libloather

I can live with what Chip Roy is asking.


24 posted on 05/17/2025 5:40:10 PM PDT by wetgundog
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To: Fungi

Their defenders will say “but but but 60 votes in the Senate! We don’t have 60!”

I reply “that would not stop the Democrats from ramming it through or changing the rules”

They always forget the filibuster is not in the constitution and can be changed by a simple majority.


25 posted on 05/17/2025 5:40:53 PM PDT by cableguymn (Can't cancel all of us)
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To: McCarthysGhost

Yes, but deporting them cuts them off, and saves face politically.


26 posted on 05/17/2025 6:15:57 PM PDT by Quickgun (I got here kicking,screaming and covered in someone else's blood. I can go out that way if I have to)
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To: Fungi

What is stopping them? Simple THEIR DONORS!!


27 posted on 05/17/2025 6:16:21 PM PDT by LoveMyFreedom
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To: Arcadian Empire

1) Most Medicaid goes to doctors, hospitals, not to poor people.
2) Second most Medicaid goes to Accenture, DeLoitte and thousands of big and small consulting firms and consultants, to to poor people.

3) 5% of what consultants work on might benefit poor people, might have useful reason to exist.

95% is consultants benefitting their fellow consultants.


28 posted on 05/17/2025 6:22:48 PM PDT by spintreebob
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To: Libloather

In some cases, double agents may be turned by the opposing side through methods such as threats which can force them to mislead their original handlers. This can lead to. The creation of re-doubled agents, who reverse their allegiances due to being compromised.


29 posted on 05/17/2025 6:22:53 PM PDT by MagillaX
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To: Fungi

#1 politicians can’t run for reelection if no balanced budget in place.
#2 all raises for politicians must be voted on by the people.


30 posted on 05/17/2025 6:28:28 PM PDT by Keyhopper (Indians had bad immigration laws)
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To: escapefromboston
"Cutting the green scam stuff seems like it would be easy enough for other republicans to go along with." One would think, here's the problem: PORK!

According to an analysis by the Center for American Progress, nearly 40% of the 435 U.S. congressional districts, or approximately 174 districts, have hosted at least one announced clean energy or manufacturing project funded by the Inflation Reduction Act (IRA) as of December 2023. This includes both Republican- and Democratic-represented districts, with a significant portion—around 57% of the 211,000 jobs announced—located in Republican-held districts.

Pork barrel spending is killing the USA and this is a prime example. No matter how awful the "Green New Scam" is, congressmen are bringing home the pork to get re-elected.

We need term limits. Maybe "One and done" is called for.

The D.C. power center with its glad-handing cocktail parties, the Congressman who quickly adopt an attitude of "Me above all else," and armies of lobbyists is the root of all our ills.

31 posted on 05/17/2025 6:49:34 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (“Diversity is our Strength” just doesn’t carry the same message as “Death from Above”)
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To: Sarah Barracuda
'He’s right..why wait til 2029 for what purpose'

So the president can say he didn't cut medicaid.

32 posted on 05/17/2025 7:35:26 PM PDT by Theoria
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To: BobL

Yes indeed, but what jobs are these idiots capable of doing? Many would probably screw up sweeping floors. Guess someone with a IQ of 40 could show them how.


33 posted on 05/17/2025 7:35:50 PM PDT by Veto! (Trump Is Superman)
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To: Keyhopper

Ram it trough again and again, and when Demonrats refuse to go along, accuse them of wanting no balanced budget and want to increase the debt.
Demonrats are all about accusing the stupid party (republicans) for all they do. Accuse , accuse, accuse, that is all they do. Stand firm and flip it back in the Demonrat’s face. Wishful thinking but it would work. At some point the dinosaur press would have to cave and cover it. I will not hold my breath, it’s not called the stupid for nothing.


34 posted on 05/17/2025 7:42:27 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: Libloather

If they cannot lower that bloated pig by a trillion they are not really trying.


35 posted on 05/17/2025 8:14:33 PM PDT by bray (It's not racist to be racist against races the DNC hates.)
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To: Fungi

Hard to do when republicans want to raise the debt limit five trillion.


36 posted on 05/17/2025 8:15:17 PM PDT by napscoordinator (DeSantis is a beast! Florida is the freest state in the country! )
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To: McCarthysGhost

“I will not insult your intelligence by suggesting that you believe what you just wrote.” - paraphrasing William Buckley


37 posted on 05/17/2025 9:03:10 PM PDT by mouske
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To: bwest

We were lied to, there will be no Social Security tax cuts. I’ve heard of a 4000 dollar reduction in income taxable, but that amounts to squat in tax reduction


38 posted on 05/17/2025 9:15:37 PM PDT by Dstorm
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To: Fungi
What must be asked is “what is stopping them?”

Answer: Being spineless.

39 posted on 05/17/2025 9:18:33 PM PDT by Schatze (It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear stupid than to open it and remove all doubt.)
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To: Libloather

I need to know what it means when they say cuts for medicaid. I have an 80 year old mother. What does that mean for her?


40 posted on 05/17/2025 10:44:10 PM PDT by JoeRender (The left are advocates of morality only when they can use it against enemies political. )
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