Posted on 05/16/2025 8:29:59 PM PDT by ransomnote
The Russians and the Ukrainians were having none of this and have been resisting so whoever is leading this is behind the foreign invasion of the EU and US is trying to impose the same by force to break down the Russians and the Ukrainians so they can extend their takeover to Ukraine, Russia and Eastern Europe.
It's not for nothing that Ukrainian officials are calling for the importation of 8 million foreign immigrants from Syria, Pakistan, Afghanistan , Sudan, Somalia and the rest of Africa to replace the population who have been killed or have fled the country to rebuild the country after the war. President Trump is fighting to keep the Ukraine for the Ukrainians when the war ends instead of seeing it gobbled up and fundamentally changed by the Globalist's and their third world cultural enrichers and the Ukrainian people turned into neo serfs in their own country.
This maneuvering in Ukraine with Zelensky and the EU leadership and their US allies,who are also Trump enemies, is as much about bringing down President Trump and the MAGA agenda as it about the war.
These people have become very adept at using the tax payer money of the US and their respective countries to fund their agenda for the destruction and fundamental change of their countries and cultures and to get rich in the process.
It is all theater. Trump is still the commander-in-chief in the US and leader of the free (facist europe) world and NATO.
Zelinski is our bought and paid for actor.
Trump only wanted to deal with Iran, and to save the financial underpinnings held by the Central Banks in Ukraine, soon to be under Russian management.
NATO got their answer. Next time we meet, it will be eight oblasts, Kiev and Odessa. Iran gave him a promise of a deal.
The importance of the assets securing the EU Loans to Ukraine are difference between Recession and defaul for Europe. At least the USA pivoted our Ukraine investment partners into BTC ETFs.
As the EU Banks have to write off assets in Ukraine... Recession already looms... they have already cut pensions in numerous countries to fund project Ukraine. A losing hand.
“Peacekeepers” means “War Extenders” Europe’s economy needs a war to bolster it with blood money....
They care that Trump has stopped US taxpayers from for paying for it.
Now all involved have two choices...
Either find some other suckers to pay for their war, or find a way to end it now that it’s outlived it’s usefulness, but in a way that doesn’t give Trump the credit for putting a stop to it.
BTTt
F’K em! The EU big three said they are going to build the biggest, baddest, most special military force, if they want war they can have it! No more American blood and treasure, let the communists, oh sorry, socialists save themselves without this time. I understand that isolationism is bad, but I am tired of this shit and maybe it’s time for some bad isolationism.
The mean back$$top
” Now it is all about Damaging President Trump. It is long past time to end our involvement in the region and let the EU sink or swim.”
Zelensky hates Trump and especially hates JD Vance. I wonder which Democrats Zelensky is taking advice from. The attitude of the other Europukes is well known.
F@#$ the EU, ditto with NATO. If they want war with Russia let them fund it. The US should walk away.
My guess is still that Trump and Putin will cut a peace deal and Trump will serve it up.to Zelensky.
Maybe we should follow our founders...stay out of european wars and carry a big wackamole stick that boys love to use when they see a snake.
In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Zelenskyy and EU Allies Macron, Starmer, Merz and Tusk Unite Against President Trump Effort, Attention Surplus Disorder wrote: I see pretty much no evidence that both Putin and Zelensky care if this war goes on indefinitely. Very hard to understand (for me) Neither one of them displays any motivation to end the war that I can see.
Putin tried to avoid war with tactics like petitioning the UN to investigate the US biowarfare labs he was concerned about, or engaging in treaties, but the UN refused to investigate (with the US ambassador sneering at the baseless charges) and even Merkle admitted after the war began that they (NATO) only agreed to the last treaty to buy time to arm/equip Ukraine for war.
During the start of the war, Putin bombed the labs. Zelensky shredded all Metabiota documentation (Biden family owned lab in Ukraine). Putin tried to bomb Ukraine into negotiating, and Zelensky made a decree making it illegal to negotiate with Russia. Putin continued damage/pause/damage/pause in terms of public relations, trying to get Ukraine to the negotiating table. The Russian public saw this as Putin's 'weakness' as did Ukrainian agitators on Free Republic.
At some point there was a tone shift - Putin took the gloves off and no longer waited for Ukraine to decide to negotiate (he realized NATO wasn't going to let Ukraine negotiate?). From that point on, it looks like Putin is trying to obtain all military objectives so NATO doesn't try to restart the war. Since Putin is winning, it doesn't help Russia to ceasefire as Ukraine 'needs' to re-arm. Ceasefire benefits the Ukraine and is negative to Russia, so Zelensky is insisting on an 'unconditional' (i.e., so Ukraine can re-arm) ceasfire. Putin had wanted conditions on the ceasefire, which Zelensky vigorously refused.
President Trump has said (paraphrasing), "You know, you hear 'Save the Ukraine!' and then you see entire cities without a single standing building. That's a 110 year reconstruction effort!' Both Zelensky and Putin know this, but Zelensky is refusing to cede any land already occupied by Russia, and Russia wants to finish the job.
great idea
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