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To: marcusmaximus
Trump was willing to stick with talks as long as it takes to achieve peace.

I think this is a mistake. Honestly, if we have to have some involvement, I would prefer an arms transfer to Russia so that Putin can take all of Ukraine as quickly as possible. But, really, it's just best if we walk away. Let Europe sort this out.

2 posted on 05/15/2025 11:08:30 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (People who receive less results for effort will naturally put in less effort when the game is rigged)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Insanity, and evil.


8 posted on 05/15/2025 11:21:06 AM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustmilents offered here free of charge)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Why don’t you just go over there and propose marriage to Putin and get a room together already? Yeah we should start supplying arms to Russia so they can defeat Ukraine where do you even get such a mixed up view of the world?


12 posted on 05/15/2025 11:23:46 AM PDT by Williams (Thank God for the election of President Trump!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

>> I would prefer an arms transfer to Russia so that Putin can
>> take all of Ukraine as quickly as possible.

In a word, no. Not going to happen no mater who is President. Our policy even in the time of Manifest Destiny was to counteract Russia (back then, the Russian Empire) expansionist drive when it became evident they were going to expand across Asia and into parts of China.

This is why us and Great Britain de facto supported Japan during the Russo-Japanese war in 1905.

If the Bolshevik Revolution never happened, if Russia never became Soviet and remained the Tsarist Russian empire, we would still eventually have clashed over their Asian expansionism and edging into Bosphorus/Turkey (prior to WWI)

We will not allow a hegemon do dominate the Eurasian continent, whether it be Germany, Russia, China or even the EU and definitely not help them achieve that goal.

While we should probably listened more closely to George Kennan post Cold War warnings and treated with much more caution with regard to NATO expansion - that ship has sailed.

And if Russia wants its former empire back, it will have to pay the blood and iron price and perhaps break itself in the process.

That does not mean that we should wade into direct confrontation with them, but does not mean we should give them a free hand either.


14 posted on 05/15/2025 11:33:16 AM PDT by JadeEmperor
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To: ClearCase_guy

WALK AWAY


22 posted on 05/15/2025 12:18:13 PM PDT by cowboyusa
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