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Some Push-back Against The Plan To Eliminate Cash
Manhattan Contrarian ^ | 10 May, 2025 | Francis Menton

Posted on 05/12/2025 4:34:35 AM PDT by MtnClimber

On the to-do list of the progressives setting out the steps needed to perfect the world, right at the top we find “Get Rid of Cash.” That makes total sense. Use of cash for financial transactions is the source and enabler of human sin and failing almost without limit. Our free exchange (aka “capitalist”) system gives rise to endless varieties of undesirable activities, ranging from the criminal to the sketchy to the non-virtuous to the icky. If only we had a world without cash, all transactions could be forced onto electronic payment systems where they could be continuously monitored by the forces of good. The undesirable ones could be identified and stopped. What’s even the argument against this?

I had a couple of posts back in 2016 and 2017, here and here, covering the advocacy of one particular know-it-all, Kenneth Rogoff, who was calling for the forced elimination of cash. Rogoff was far from a nobody in this debate, having been, among other things, Chief Economist of the IMF and a big-time economics professor at Harvard. Since 2017 I have not much covered this issue, but the advocacy has moved on well beyond even Rogoff’s dreams. During the Biden years the big idea became the “Central Bank Digital Currency” — replacement of our humble greenbacks with “digital” (electronic) currency issued directly by the Federal Reserve. Of course, Treasury Secretary Janet Yellen became a big promoter.

Over the near decade since I wrote those two posts about this subject, the use of cash has declined significantly, with the strong encouragement, although mostly not the mandate, of governments. The decline has been more pronounced in some countries than in others. In the U.S., data from the Federal Reserve indicate that the percent of transactions involving cash declined from about 35% in 2015 to only 16% in 2024. Two of the countries where use of cash has declined the most are Sweden and South Korea. According to the latest figures I can find (Sweden and South Korea, both 2023), the percentage of transactions involving cash is around 10% in both those countries.

Which makes it interesting that suddenly Sweden, of all countries, has caught on that elimination of cash might not be such a great idea. Here are two articles from March, one from The Banker (behind paywall) and another from The Guardian. Excerpt from The Banker:

Sweden is backpedalling on its decades-long push to go cashless. The [reasons are the] threat of war, coupled with concerns about “signals” from the US under President Donald Trump. . . .

From The Guardian:

[I]n the context of today, with war in Europe, unpredictability in the US and the fear of Russian hybrid attacks almost a part of daily life in Sweden, life without cash is not proving the utopia that perhaps it once promised to be. Such is the perceived severity of the situation that the authorities are trying to encourage citizens to keep and use cash in the name of civil defence. In November, the defence ministry sent every home a brochure entitled If Crisis or War Comes, advising people to use cash regularly and keep a minimum of a week’s supply in various denominations to “strengthen preparedness”.

The two articles put the reason for the shift as “war” or “civil defence.” That’s a very good reason, but it could be stated even more broadly: a fully electrified payments system is subject to what is called a “single point of failure.” When the electricity goes out, the means to make payments completely fails, and remains out of action until the electricity comes back on. That could be in an hour, or a month. Meanwhile, what? In a system without cash, there is no back-up.

What could knock the electricity out? War — hypothesized by Sweden as an attack by Russia — is one possibility. Hacking is another. Grid instability is a third, exemplified by the recent outage in Spain and Portugal. Those countries got their grids back up within about a day; but increasing penetration of wind and solar generation on grids in major countries significantly raises the likely frequency of such outages, and the challenges of recovering from them.

And then there’s the issue of surveillance. The whole electronic payments system is subject to continuous monitoring by the authorities, all done in the background without any notice to you that you are being watched. I am regularly amazed at the willingness of almost everybody to submit to this surveillance (which you can avoid every time you use cash). After all, the authorities would never misuse this information, would they?

If you think that the authorities would never misuse information gained from transaction monitoring for political purposes, you need to look at the “debanking” scandals of the Biden years. Here is a December 2024 piece from the Telegraph providing some details, and listing some prominent victims. Donald, Melania and Barron Trump — no surprises there. How about Nigel Farage, the likely next Prime Minister of the UK? And how about large number of prominent figures in the world of cryptocurrencies? Hey, the Bidenauts deemed the whole crypto thing to be sketchy. And besides, a lot of those crypto guys might be Republicans. Aren’t those reasons enough to banish the industry from the banking system? From the Telegraph:

The alleged debanking of crypto entrepreneurs comes amid a years-long crackdown on digital currency business and their billionaire founders. Under the Biden administration, US regulators have unleashed a series of civil and criminal lawsuits against cryptocurrency exchanges. Those prosecuting such cases claim they are simply enforcing regulation or crackdown on wrongdoing. Yet critics claim it is part of a broader effort to target political opponents. [Mark] Andreessen claimed that it is not only businesses that have been impacted, but “just generally political opponents”.

The general surveillance by the authorities of all of your banking and credit/debit card transactions takes place under the USA PATRIOT Act, passed in the aftermath of the September 11, 2001 attacks. On May 7, Congresswoman Anna Paulina Luna of Florida introduced a bill called the “Privacy Restoration Act” to end that. From Representative Luna’s statement on introduction of her bill:

“For over two decades, rogue actors within our U.S. intelligence agencies have used the Patriot Act to create the most sophisticated, unaccountable surveillance apparatus in the Western world,” said Congresswoman Luna. “My legislation will strip the deep state of these tools and protect every American’s fourth amendment right against unreasonable searches and seizures. It’s past time to rein in our intelligence agencies and restore the right to privacy. Anyone trying to convince you otherwise is using ‘security’ as an excuse to erode your freedom.”

Representative Luna’s bill is at least a small sign of push-back against the pervasive surveillance state. I am not expecting the bill to pass any time soon, but it is encouraging to see at least some small signs of resistance. Meanwhile, you too can push back by using cash whenever possible.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
KEYWORDS: cash; cbdc; centralbank; digitalcurrency; eliminatecash

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1 posted on 05/12/2025 4:34:35 AM PDT by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

I think that a Central Bank Digital Currency could easily lead to a Social Credit System similar to the one used to control the population in China.


2 posted on 05/12/2025 4:34:49 AM PDT by MtnClimber (For photos of scenery, wildlife and climbing, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber
Digital currency is pure, unadulterated evil. There are no ifs, ands, or buts about it.

Vaccine Passports are one thing, and those are evil. We have seen how a totalitarian government could use them as we watched the ChiComs restrict the movement of their dissident citizens using it. They would undoubtedly do that here. No doubt. As currently implemented in Communist China, this affects your ability to cross a state or even city line, use public transportation, or check into a hotel

Another part of it is that using the Vaccine Passport, they could easily link that to your bank account in a heartbeat even without a digital currency. They link to it and then to your bank accounts, and you have to have enough cash on hand all the time. With a digital currency, they just put the stop on you period, turning off the valve at the source. So you can't buy food. Can't check into a hotel. Can’t fix a flat tire. You can't buy anything. You won't be able to disappear.

It is going to be interesting, watch how they present this to the public. These are the things they will say (this is a prediction of HOW they will sell it):

They will make this so attractive to their target audience (people who are accustomed to being habitually electronically connected 24 hours a day, seven days a week) that vast swaths of people will break down brick walls to voluntarily get this deadly threat to their liberty. This is what they are aiming for.

That part will be like selling heroin to heroin-addicts.

At this point, they despotic government have one of the most effective wedges ever invented to drive between people.

It will be more effective than religion. It will be more effective than education. It will be more effective than class. It will be more effective than simply having money. It will be more effective than skin color.

It will be more of a wedge than money, because it is total control of money.

Digital Currency is EVIL.

3 posted on 05/12/2025 4:43:51 AM PDT by rlmorel ("A people that elect corrupt politicians are not victims...but accomplices." George Orwell)
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To: MtnClimber

There is that, but they also want to be able to fine you on the spot for whatever offense you committed. There is also the risk that they can devalue your bank account to prevent you from saving anything.


4 posted on 05/12/2025 4:44:23 AM PDT by Jonty30 (If the life of a fish is as valuable as a human, why can't humans eat fish when fish eat fish?.)
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To: MtnClimber

My only question...is there a mark or a number involved?


5 posted on 05/12/2025 4:46:37 AM PDT by Qwapisking ("The left will rue the day they cheated Trump out of the 2020 election forever" L.Star )
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To: MtnClimber

“where they could be continuously monitored by the forces of good. “

The forces of good.....really. Reminds me of Orwell’s 1984. We are almost there, just 40 years late.


6 posted on 05/12/2025 4:50:12 AM PDT by xenia (In a Time of Universal Deceit — Telling the Truth Is a Revolutionary Act - George Orwell)
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To: MtnClimber

In a world where everyone had a nine to five job for a big corporation it might be possible to exist without cash. I’m a low-end landlord. The people I deal with don’t have bank accounts. Their checks come from Walmart. They survive on the margin. You need a tree cut down? $500 cash. You need some odd job done, it’s cash. They either don’t have a steady income or they’re knitting together dozens of small jobs. Do away with cash and you instantly reduce their income by the percentage of tax and force them to increase their workload by 28%. They’re on the margin now. A few percentage points more and they fall off.


7 posted on 05/12/2025 4:51:49 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (I had a tagline and I dropped it. The cat back-pawed it under the Barcalounger. )
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To: Jonty30

They can impose negative interest rates, which would force you to spend your money or lose it. The government can use it as. A throttle on a troubled economy, if I understand it correctly.

Of course, there are people who say the government would never do this.

If I could post a graphic from where I am right now, I might have the graphic of Dr. Evil saying “Riiiight…”


8 posted on 05/12/2025 4:54:48 AM PDT by rlmorel ("A people that elect corrupt politicians are not victims...but accomplices." George Orwell)
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To: MtnClimber
When cash is gone and it's all on Central Computer, government has access to all your financial transactions. It knows how much money you have, and there's none under the mattress, so it will take what it wants and give it to who it wants.

Your actions will be monitored, and you'll be rewarded or punished accordingly. The ruling elite will retain its special privileges while the ordinary folk will live in misery.

9 posted on 05/12/2025 4:56:00 AM PDT by I want the USA back (America is once again GREAT! )
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To: MtnClimber; All

OK FReepers, this is not that hard.

Go down to the ATM. Get $100, $200, heck, get $500!

Now go use it. Don’t offer plastic. Do your part to keep cash alive.

If they force CBDC on us, we are finished as free men.


10 posted on 05/12/2025 5:01:46 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: rlmorel

>70% of people make 95% of their money transactions using cashless methods. This just makes it even easier, everywhere! (I just made that statistic up out of thin air-they will too, and far, far more extravagantly)

73.85% of all statistics are made up on the spot.


11 posted on 05/12/2025 5:03:09 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Qwapisking

It’s a beast of a mark.

EC


12 posted on 05/12/2025 5:03:26 AM PDT by Ex-Con777
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To: Gen.Blather

>> A few percentage points more and they fall off.

That is what the Left wants. They want more totally dependent on government. It’s a feature, not a bug, in their plan.


13 posted on 05/12/2025 5:04:53 AM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: rlmorel

Excellent comment.

“Digital currency is evil”

That doesn’t matter. It is just so “convenient” it is worth the evil. Priorities are important.


14 posted on 05/12/2025 5:12:32 AM PDT by Openurmind
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To: rlmorel

Yes, that was the term I was looking for to explain what can be done.


15 posted on 05/12/2025 5:17:59 AM PDT by Jonty30 (If the life of a fish is as valuable as a human, why can't humans eat fish when fish eat fish?.)
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To: MtnClimber

Try to use digital at a flea market or a garage sale. It won’twork. Ths is a device urged by totalitarianists who reside in apartments in large cities. They have no concept of real life!!


16 posted on 05/12/2025 5:19:19 AM PDT by Highest Authority (DemonRats are pure EVIL)
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To: MtnClimber

Authorities would never misuse information

Cute


17 posted on 05/12/2025 5:20:49 AM PDT by Vaduz
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To: MtnClimber

The young will buy into this readily. It amazes me when I see people using plastic to buy a soda from a machine. Have spoken to many who tell me they never carry cash. Too bad youth is wasted on young people.


18 posted on 05/12/2025 5:21:11 AM PDT by animal172 (This ain't the country I grew up in.)
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To: Highest Authority

I’ve seen it used at flea markets. All a vendor needs is that little attachment for the cell phone.


19 posted on 05/12/2025 5:22:47 AM PDT by animal172 (This ain't the country I grew up in.)
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To: MtnClimber

Cash may enable criminal enterprise, but a fully-monitors electronic banking system enables total government control. That is a far worse prospect.


20 posted on 05/12/2025 5:24:21 AM PDT by fwdude (Why is there a "far/radical right," but damned if they'll admit that there is a far/radical left?)
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