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I'm doubtful that removing suppressors from the NFA would pass in the Senate.

Still, it would be nice if Congress at least threw the shooting community a bone and lowered the ATF Tax Stamp down to $5.

1 posted on 05/11/2025 9:11:17 AM PDT by Towed_Jumper
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While I am certainly in favor of lowering the tax stamp cost for suppressors to five dollars, I am much more in favor of completely eliminating suppressors from the NFA in the first place. There is also legal justification for doing so.

The simple fact is that the BATFE regulates suppressors under the authority of the 1934 NFA, which defines suppressors as “arms.“ Well, if they are “arms,“ then they cannot charge a fee to exercise the right to own those devices, any more than a state can charge a poll tax to exercise the right to vote. On the other hand, if suppressors are not “arms,“ then under what pretext can they possibly be regulated at all? The government simply cannot have it both ways. Either suppressors are “arms“ or they are not, and either way they should not be regulating them - fee or no fee.

Ironically, these are available right off the shelf without any regulations whatsoever in Europe, where it is required to use suppressors in many countries because it helps to preserve people‘s hearing. So, even the hoplophobic Europeans recognize that suppressors are not arms, and that they provide a tremendous benefit to society in terms of preserving health. For a change, they are far more rational than we are on a gun-related issue, since our pathetic Congress in 1934 got it’s motivation for passing this law from the movies and sensationalist reporting regarding mafia activities. Even more pathetic is that 91 years after the fact, we still apparently cannot have a rational discussion about these devices.


2 posted on 05/11/2025 9:47:17 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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That bull hockey right there is why NRA is why gets nothing from me anymore. what a bunch of hats and holes.


3 posted on 05/11/2025 9:51:00 AM PDT by BudgieRamone (Everybody loves a bonk on the head)
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From what I understand, supressors were put on the NFA list during the depression. People were using them for poaching to feed their families.


4 posted on 05/11/2025 10:12:00 AM PDT by wjcsux (On 3/14/1883 Karl Marx gave humanity his best gift, he died. )
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I'd even be ok with getting a renewable shall issue certification like concealed carry permits. Then let me buy all the NFA goodies that I want. The $200 stamp still needs to be done away with since it was strictly punitive in nature from the git-go.
I'm clean as a preacher's sheets but get delayed every single time I go thru the suppressor process and it's infuriating.

I know the "muh rights" bunch will squall about being on "a list", but truth of the matter is, if we're to the point of a real reason to worry about being on a list, it's time to move from "theory" to "practical application" anyways..

5 posted on 05/11/2025 10:23:22 AM PDT by CopperTop (Outside the wire it's just us chickens. Dig?)
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7 posted on 05/11/2025 11:50:20 AM PDT by Towed_Jumper (Please remain seated until your civilization comes to a complete stop.)
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11 posted on 05/11/2025 12:07:23 PM PDT by Towed_Jumper (Please remain seated until your civilization comes to a complete stop.)
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13 posted on 05/11/2025 5:24:01 PM PDT by PROCON (Sic Semper Tyrannis)
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The lowering of the tax stamp to $5 would be nice, but the onerous paperwork involved will still be in place. And as long as the paperwork is kept, the price of a suppressor will be artificially high.


14 posted on 05/11/2025 5:31:48 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Time to dump out the Treasury drawer and throw out all the junk that is wasting our money.)
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Supposedly the complete hearing act is in the bill...so far. The short, barreled rifle thing didn’t make it, but the senate might put in (or take it out or just reduce the tax to zero) or the house might put it back in when they get it back. At least to my understanding. Anyhow I didn’t find any other thread about it, so I searched for suppressors in the title and found this one. An update and so far so good.

FReegards


29 posted on 05/22/2025 5:48:09 PM PDT by Ransomed
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