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1 posted on 05/11/2025 7:50:10 AM PDT by Red Badger
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Will be his one have the hemi sound system installed? You know with the sounds of a supercharged 392?


2 posted on 05/11/2025 7:53:00 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with this💩? 🚫💉! 🇮🇱👍!)
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40°C is a pretty low ceiling in the American Southwest. I’d like to see another 10° to feel at all comfortable with it. The typical military upper temperature for electronics is 125°C.


3 posted on 05/11/2025 7:58:14 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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Bet it burns up real good. Nothing like sitting above a potential hazard, sort of like Russian tanks which store their ammo below the crews.


4 posted on 05/11/2025 7:58:52 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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Energy density of gasoline is 12,700 Wh/kg e.g. more than 300 times higher than this battery. Just say’in. Now of course you have to compare the weight of the total engine and fuel package for both the ICEV and the EV.


5 posted on 05/11/2025 7:59:11 AM PDT by AndyJackson
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I’ll know it’s real when it’s on at 2am with Vince Offer hawking it.


6 posted on 05/11/2025 8:02:04 AM PDT by HYPOCRACY (Long live The Great MAGA Kangz!)
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...faster charging speeds...

Science
How does one pump that many kWh through the existing grid without blaclouts all around the charging station....


7 posted on 05/11/2025 8:07:13 AM PDT by Steven Tyler
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> Stellantis Validates Game-Changing Solid-State Battery <

Sounds good. But many surveys have ranked Fiat and Jeep as the worst cars on the market today. Both brands are owned by Stellantis.

Just sayin’.


9 posted on 05/11/2025 8:13:02 AM PDT by Leaning Right (It’s morning in America. Again.)
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I am not categorically opposed to the idea of electric vehicles. It is just another means of propulsion. Of course, it cannot ever replicate sound and feel of a powerful gasoline motor, and as a muscle car enthusiast that is important to me.

Despite that, I could see having an EV if the technology were advanced enough. However, I don’t think we are there yet. Even with this advance, and even if it cost the same as standard lithium batteries now cost, there are still a number of problems: first, there is a tremendous safety issue - when lithium catches fire, and it does quite easily, it is almost impossible to put it out. I have certain knowledge that fire departments around the country have a policy of just letting lithium fires burn out on their own, with their job being to clear people far enough away so that it is not an immediate danger to them - and the amount of toxins released into the atmosphere from a lithium fire are stunning and immensely harmful to health. Second, the charging time is still too high. You can fill a very large gas tank completely from just about empty in 10 minutes, not from 15% to 90% full in 18 minutes. Yes, that cuts the present gap by a lot, but it is still less than half as good as a gasoline or diesel motor. Third is the simple hypocrisy of many advocates for EVs as some kind of a solution to our environmental problems. Even this solid-state battery covered here has many highly toxic materials, materials that have to be mined in dirty and dangerous ways across the globe, the raw materials have to be shipped elsewhere to be refined, shipped somewhere else again to be fabricated, and likely shipped a third time to be assembled. Then there’s the issue of how do these parts get recycled? With a gasoline or diesel motor, that’s easy, you simply melt down the metal, and maybe do a little bit of refining to purify it a bit more - but lithium batteries simply cannot be recycled, they just get buried and end up, polluting the soil. Finally, there is the 800 pound gorilla of how do these things get the power? If it was all powered by wind and solar, the advocates might possibly have a case (though if you go down one more layer and see what it costs in both money and environmental damage to build windmills and solar panels, that’s a seriously negative factor), but we know that over 89% of electricity is produced using natural gas, coal , nuclear, and in some cases oil, so there really is a highly negative case for EVs from an environmental point of view.

Again, there is a place for EVs, and I’m not going to condemn somebody who buys one of them, but there are so many technological issues involved that they are just not for me, and they are certainly not the solution that so many ill linformed and highly biased people believe that it is.


13 posted on 05/11/2025 8:25:36 AM PDT by Ancesthntr ("The right to buy weapons is the right to be free." The Weapons Shops of Isher)
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“semi-solid state”

would a gel lead-acid battery qualify as “semi-solid state”?


14 posted on 05/11/2025 8:29:46 AM PDT by catnipman ((A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil))
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15% - 90% in 18 minutes ... yeah, I’m no5 seeing it. Another hype job.


16 posted on 05/11/2025 8:33:09 AM PDT by Spacetrucker
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In the meantime, Stellantis is still playing the "open, close, open close" game with a manufacturing facility in Belvidere, Illinois. The current "we are going to open this again real soon" phase is going to turn it into an EV battery production plant in the next few years. It's part of an agreement with the union to add new jobs.

The real issue - even Stellantis does not want to do business in Illinois. The plant has been sitting idle for years, but the locals are still clinging to the idea that EV batteries, the hope of the future, will restore employment to the area. In the meantime, it's a large empty place along Route 20.

17 posted on 05/11/2025 8:37:31 AM PDT by Bernard (Issue an annual budget. And Issue a federal government balance sheet. Let's see what we got.)
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The cells can charge from 15-90% in just 18 minutes at room temperature and support discharge rates of up to 4C, meaning the battery can fully discharge four times in an hour.

Technically, a discharge rate of 4C means the battery can output current at 4 times the capacity of the battery.

So, a 4C, 77Ah battery can supply up to 308 amps of power.

19 posted on 05/11/2025 9:21:05 AM PDT by Ol' Dan Tucker (For 'tis the sport to have the engineer hoist with his own petard., -- Hamlet, Act 3, Scene 4)
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My car and my trucks work fine (none have caught fire or blown up in 60 years of driving) and get through power outages without even noticing. I even have a little gas at home for the lawnmower and “emergencies”. I’m thinking about putting a 300-gallon gravity tank up on my 40 acres out of town. I’ve always wanted my own gas station.


20 posted on 05/11/2025 9:41:24 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The road is a dangerous place man, you can die out here...or worse. -Johnny Paycheck, 1980, Reno, NV)
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Meh, BFD. I can put 20 gallons of gas in my RAM 1500 in less than 2 minutes and drive for 350 miles. Let me know when an EV pickup can do that and I might take a look.


22 posted on 05/11/2025 9:48:53 AM PDT by technically right
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They could come up with the most perfect battery in the world. And that won’t change the fact that we are not even close to having the ability to support charging them on a mass scale.


24 posted on 05/11/2025 10:39:36 AM PDT by Revel
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We need to start peppering the US with the new generation nuclear power plants because between this EV junk and AI the need for electricity is going to be impossible to provide otherwise.


25 posted on 05/11/2025 11:00:40 AM PDT by isthisnickcool (UD" )
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