Leaders call Trump to discuss 30-day Ukraine ceasefire

as has been clearly demonstrated by your recent pattern of libelous statements

I have already asked you to cite any allegedly libelous statements you claim I have made. Direct quotes would be appreciated!

BobL and I have both been here for more than 20 years.

So what?

Regards,

It’s hardly “magnanimus”. More akin to the Germans offering an unconditional ceasefire in July of 1944. That would have been “ magnanimous” of them, rught?

Oh, more sanctions. Definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

Sadly, time is running out for Ukraine.

And time will tell whether you are right or wrong.

And no, I do not accept your laughable explanation that you included me as some form of "CC". This is just one more lie in an obvious continuation of a pattern that you have now established.

What "obvious continuation of a pattern" do you mean? If one accepts that I was merely "pinging" you because I thought that my postings might interest you, no such "continuous pattern" can be claimed.

I feel that you are being overly sensitive and maybe even a little self-righteous. Nor do I understand what "lies" you are referring to.

I might point out that I also "cc-ed" another FReeper - PIF - who evidently understood that I was simply "pinging" him; he did not, in any event, take offense.

Why can't you simply accept my explanation (which included an apology - something unheard of here at FR!), and move on?

Regards,

Definition of insanity: doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different result.

Like bombing Nazi Germany: It will eventually yield the desired result.

Nothing "insane" about that!

Regards,

If just bombing Germany could win the war, why D-Day?

Again, time will tell who is right.

and additional sanctions imposed on Russia

Can they impose any more? Dumb.

Either way, this summer should be telling. Unless both sides exhausted.

“Avowed Putin-supporters”

What part of “HUGE PROBLEM with Putin” do you not understand? If it’s a language difference, perhaps you should find a site that allows discussion in your native tongue - no doubt you’ll be welcome, since you seem to totally follow the GLOBALIST line.

Like most others here I have repeatedly put up with your innuendo, buffoonery and virtue signaling. Most are not willing to waste their time responding to your insincere word games and then feigning ignorance when you are called on your idiotic smears of others.

If one was not aware of our long history of posts and communications, they might be convinced to buy into your lame excuses and completely insincere “apology”. Few people here have sincerely apologized to others more frequently than I have when I realized that I had made inappropriate comments or came to conclusions that were wrong.

You have not acknowledged any wrongdoing after smearing me with false accusations. You are like a criminal caught red handed in a lie continuing to proclaim your innocence. It is embarrassing and far below even one who masquerades as a gentleman while virtue signaling and making judgments against others.

You said to BobL in post #54 “A person of your political persuasion and low morals has no place here at Free Republic.”

When I responded, “BobL and I have both been here for more than 20 years.”

In your so called “apology” You said, “So What?”

Your insincerity is an embarrassment to everyone here desires to carry on a rational discussion. Personally, I have had it with you. I am not really angry or hurt, but I am extremely disappointed. I have given you much more credit here than I should have. It is not the first time that I have been taken in by someone with interesting circumstances and I am sure that it will not be the last.

[...] your innuendo, buffoonery and virtue signaling. Most are not willing to waste their time responding to your insincere word games and then feigning ignorance when you are called on your idiotic smears of others.

Way to "de-escalate," fireman15!

Few people here have sincerely apologized to others more frequently than I have when I [...]

That is true, and I commend you for it! Perhaps, in time, you will come to realize that you are overreacting here to my recent postings and regret some of your words.

You have not acknowledged any wrongdoing after smearing me with false accusations.

I have apologized, twice, for not making it clear that I was merely "pinging" you, thus falsely creating the impression that I was accusing both BobL and you.

When I responded, “BobL and I have both been here for more than 20 years.” In your so called “apology” You said, “So What?”

Are you saying that you feel that that somehow lessens the sincerity of my apology?! Whether anyone has been here two days or twenty years is namely irrelevant. I was lambasting BobL, who not only holds despicable stances on Ukraine (he laments, for example, that Putin didn't launch his surprise attack even earlier, and openly calls for him to "clean up" other neighboring countries, including NATO partners like Poland, Finland, and the Baltic states), but also frequently indulges in blatant and obscene personal insults of FReepers who disagree with him.

Your insincerity is an embarrassment to everyone here [who] desires to carry on a rational discussion.

Unfortunately, due to your refusing to accept my sincere apology and "move on," this discussion has now devolved into a meta-discussion, which is quite unproductive. You now seem more interested in nursing your "hurt" and celebrating your victimhood.

Personally, I have had it with you.

I am sorry you feel that way! While you seem overly sensitive and easy to offend, as well as unwilling to accept apologies (an unfortunate combination!), our past interactions have been, for the most part, interesting and productive.

I am not really angry or hurt, but I am extremely disappointed.

To be honest, I think you're being unreasonable and "precious." Your personal attacks against me in this thread are overshadowing the actual issue, which is of infinitely greater importance.

Get over yourself!

Regards,

Get over yourself!

What an apology! You have made no apology at all. Just an obvious excuse denying your easily construed meaning and intent. You were demonstrating once again your unique brand of jackassery.

Despite differing opinions, I had considered you to be a friend for years now. Thank you for showing your true colors one too many times.

The person who holds despicable views on Ukraine is not BobL; it is you. Your nonstop virtue signaling and self-righteousness does a poor job of hiding the fact that you have no concern at all about the people of Ukraine or their best interests. Their best hope is that President Trump will negotiate a lasting peace with Russia and ensure that fair and free elections will give the Ukrainian people an opportunity to decide the future of their country and not a corrupt puppet leader who takes his orders from the EU and not his own people.

Now, stop fighting with me and wish your wife a Happy Mother's Day! Boobs like us are incredibly lucky to have women like her and the children that they have given us.

What an apology!

I proffered an unequivocable apology twice. You rejected it twice. Anything I wrote after that was no longer an apology. Rather, by that point, I was gently chiding you for your obstinacy.

Indeed, even a well-meaning "Get over yourself!" is something you apparently find intolerably wounding. Hence my characterization of you as "over-sensitive."

You are the one now resorting to invective and name-calling. You are the one now being abusive.

[...] you have no concern at all about the people of Ukraine or their best interests. Their best hope is that President Trump will negotiate a lasting peace with Russia [...]

On the contrary: I have at no time criticized President Trump's heroic efforts to broker a peace! Where are you getting this?

[...] and ensure that fair and free elections will give the Ukrainian people an opportunity to decide the future of their country and not a corrupt puppet leader who takes his orders from the EU and not his own people.

Why only the Ukrainian people? Why not also the Russian people? Should not fair elections also be held in Russia? Shouldn't a corrupt leader like Putin likewise be deposed? Why do you limit your criticism to Ukraine? Is Putin beyond reproach? Your argumentation seems very one-sided!

Now, stop fighting with me and wish your wife a Happy Mother's Day! Boobs like us are incredibly lucky to have women like her and the children that they have given us.

Finally, a breath of fresh air! Thank you for your kind thoughts! Give my best (unbekannterweise) to your lovely wife, as well!

Regards,

Why only the Ukrainian people? Why not also the Russian people? Should not fair elections also be held in Russia? Shouldn't a corrupt leader like Putin likewise be deposed? Why do you limit your criticism to Ukraine? Is Putin beyond reproach? Your argumentation seems very one-sided!

I have been very critical of Putin many times in this forum, but there is little doubt that he has a high approval rating among the Russian people. And this is not the result of outside manipulation from foreign powers. So, your comparisons between Putin and Zelensky are invalid.

It is not the job or responsibility of the United States or the EU to interfere in the internal affairs of other countries. There is a long history of botched foreign policy efforts that prove that this type of manipulation leads to nothing but folly... which is a concept that a person who consistently expresses a globalist point of view has a difficult time conceiving.

Whether or not the effort is well meaning or if the real goal is to secure valuable natural resources or some type of perceived strategic advantage makes no difference. As you well know Ukraine and Russia have a close relationship that goes back beyond a millennia. The origin of both countries are from a common root. The well-known efforts of Western Intelligence Agencies, and Soros backed groups to install Western leaning leadership there was always doomed to horrific failure which has now proved to be a disaster for the people of Ukraine. And no, this was not by their choice it was a coordinated foreign effort similar to earlier and continues efforts still taking place.

Misguided do-gooders such as yourself have been influenced by a never-ending barrage of propaganda that has caused you to lose your ability to come to rational conclusions. And this leads you to make equivocations and resort to prevarication without even being aware that you are doing it. It would be comedic if it were not a process that leads to death, misery, and the destruction of culture and infrastructure.

Your recent statements show clearly that you feel that you are morally superior to others when in reality you constantly advocate for war, death, destruction, hatred of other peoples and tricking the populations of other countries into servitude. The $Hundreds of Billions spent, and millions of lives lost in the Ukrainian debacle are not seen by the vast majority of the world's population as something honorable, but as a powerful example of why Western countries are an evil influence in the world today.

This perception while it is obviously not completely valid is perpetuated by people in the West such as yourself. You have stuck your head in the sand while all of this mayhem has been occurring and keep repeating sloganistic, virtue signaling nonsense that is easily seen through by populations living in other parts of the world most of whom have not had the "benefit" of a Western education.

My wife and I are making our weekly trek to the Museum of Flight this morning where we constantly come into contact with tourists from foreign countries while she is volunteering. I know that you have some similar contact with a less diverse group of people but somehow you do not seem to let the opinions and observations of others with a different point of view make a dent in your world view. At this point I believe that this you are blinded by your own arrogance. Your self-awareness seems to be severely limited which after communicating with you over a period of years is surprising to me considering your background and experiences.

If the EU didn’t seem so determined to keep the war going no matter what, I might welcome this. As it stands, I wonder what their game really is.