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Trump still would like to add Canada and Greenland but says attack on Canada ‘highly unlikely’
Politico ^ | 5/4/2025 | Gregory Svirnovskiy

Posted on 05/04/2025 12:45:27 PM PDT by Miami Rebel

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To: griffin

Re: 6 - good grief.

So because you don’t agree with what someone posts, they should be zotted?


21 posted on 05/04/2025 1:13:46 PM PDT by Fury
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To: Lakeshark

100% its all about letting China know we’re watching. They have been scheming with corrupt paid off politicians to get a foot hold into the West. That crybaby Trudeau freakshow was bought and paid for just like Hunter and ‘the big guy.’ They did this to great effect in Africa. Mexico was just starting to play footsie under the table.

The WEF want to use China as the model for the world after their “Great Reset” rolls into place following some future manufactured global crisis.

Maybe another invented ‘health emergency’ promoted by the CCP owned WHO or just as likely an economic crisis as well. The USA and the West proved to be too resilient for them last time.


22 posted on 05/04/2025 1:14:19 PM PDT by captmar-vell
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To: Miami Rebel

We do not need all of Canada. Just trade California for Alberta and Saskatchewan. The other Canadian provinces are communist.


23 posted on 05/04/2025 1:14:49 PM PDT by DFG
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To: Publius

thanks for the reference.

So then, we have a Supreme Court precedent, that states are not permitted to secede from the union.

States can join the union, but cannot secede.

If I recall correctly, the constitution does not have any provision for states to secede from the union, so the assumption is that secession would never happen.


24 posted on 05/04/2025 1:14:54 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Miami Rebel

I hope we get Greenland.


25 posted on 05/04/2025 1:15:44 PM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: Angelino97

“Or has Lincoln settled that issue?”

Lincoln destroyed the Constitution to save the union.

But the principles of the Declaration of Independence still exist for those that can read.


26 posted on 05/04/2025 1:16:44 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: Savage Beast

I’ll predict that not one Canadian Province will successfully vote to leave Confederation in the next 4 years.

And that we will not initiate military action to take control of the Panama Canal or Greenland.


27 posted on 05/04/2025 1:17:54 PM PDT by Fury
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Exactly! I voted for Trump 3 times and would vote for him 12 more times but I’m not going to sit here if he says something goofy. If he deports the millions of illegals ( let’s hope) I’ll carve his face into Mt Rushmore with my bare hands


28 posted on 05/04/2025 1:18:21 PM PDT by Strict9
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To: Dilbert San Diego

GW punched global terrorism in the face and took Iraq out of the game for 100 years. He also dramatically reduced personal taxes, raised estate taxes from just 600k to unlimited for years, and put dividends at 15% tax instead of ordinary income. His no child left behind was effective too.

I was a proud Bush supporter then and feel he’s been nice quiet and admirable since leaving office.

So there….


29 posted on 05/04/2025 1:19:25 PM PDT by Professional ( )
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To: Dilbert San Diego
In Federalist #43, Madison laid out the basics of this issue. The Constitution is a contract, not a treaty.

Under Treaty Law, if you think you're getting the short end of the stick, you simply advise the other members of the treaty that you're leaving. That's why treaties have an escape clause.

Under Contract Law, if you want to leave, you have to get the permission of the other parties. The only exceptions are fraud and non-performance. Madison stated that if even one state of the original 13 wanted to leave, it would require the concurrence of the other 12 states.

The important thing to remember is that unilateral secession violates the Constitution, not secession itself.

30 posted on 05/04/2025 1:19:54 PM PDT by Publius
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There’s a case to be made that Trump wanted Carney to win all along, which may have been at least partial motivation for his antagonistic “51st state” comments. Sundance has pointed out that USMCA comes up for review in July 2026 and makes the argument that POTUS wants out of the tri-lateral agreement, preferring separate deals with each country. A Poilievre administration would have made such a move more difficult.

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2025/04/28/how-the-nafta-usmca-2016-review-underpins-president-trump-remarks-on-canada/

https://www.stratego-st.com/newsletters/renegotiation-of-usmca-in-2026-key-aspects/


31 posted on 05/04/2025 1:20:33 PM PDT by mbrfl
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To: Dilbert San Diego

“If I recall correctly, the constitution does not have any provision for states to secede from the union, so the assumption is that secession would never happen.”

And the Constitution does not have a provision for states to
allow the production of cherry flavored Dr. Pepper.

No one thought it was necessary to mention the right existed.


32 posted on 05/04/2025 1:22:20 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: Professional
GW punched global terrorism in the face and took Iraq out of the game for 100 years.

The Saudis were behind 9/11. They were terrified that they were going to be next after Iraq so they knocked it off whatever they were doing. Now they have MBS who is pro-western.

So it's working out pretty well.

We just have to deal with Iran but it appears to me that their regime may fall apart anytime soon. Its deeply unpopular with the Iranian people and they are already defying the regime.

33 posted on 05/04/2025 1:22:29 PM PDT by MinorityRepublican
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To: Lakeshark
Trump is trolling about Canada. A slap to their leftist leadership, one they deserve.

His trolling may have helped ensure that their leftist leadership continued. Pierre Polliviere seems to be an idiot with terrible political skills, but Trump did not need to contribute to Carney's victory.

As for Greenland, acquiring it would probably have been easier if negotiations had been done quietly and privately with Denmark and the current Greenland leadership. Threatening an invasion is a sure way to fire up resistance.


34 posted on 05/04/2025 1:23:32 PM PDT by AnotherUnixGeek
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To: Miami Rebel
The elites have war-gamed the very scenario we are seeing played out today. The collapse of the petro-dollar hegemony. In 1973 the “Club of Rome” planned for the post unipolarity world separating the world into 10 regions. Trump is merely following the “plan” with us taking Canada and Greenland. The Russia, Ukraine conflict is over who gets Ukraine Ukraine…Russia or the EU…

Italian Trulli
35 posted on 05/04/2025 1:23:41 PM PDT by Jan_Sobieski (Sanctification)
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To: Miami Rebel

We should offer Alberta, Saskatchewan, and British Columbia territorial status with an open border and military protection for a deal on lumber, oil, and minerals. They can remain independent and separate from Canadian socialist rule and we get a good deal on their exports. It would be a win-win.


36 posted on 05/04/2025 1:25:23 PM PDT by TonyM (Score Event)
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To: Publius

“The important thing to remember is that unilateral secession violates the Constitution, not secession itself.”

That is an interesting comment.

Does unilateral secession violate the principles of the Declaration of Independence?


37 posted on 05/04/2025 1:26:39 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: Publius

“Texas v. White, 1869.”

Victors justice.


38 posted on 05/04/2025 1:28:12 PM PDT by jeffersondem
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To: Professional

So there….

*******************

Bush was also a democrat punching bag that showed very little political fight. At the end of his 2nd term the Republican Party was in horrible shape.

Which is too bad for W, because I had “high hopes” for his Presidency.


39 posted on 05/04/2025 1:29:17 PM PDT by unclebankster (Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel. )
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To: TonyM

Something like a Compact of Free Association. Better deal than statehood and the worldwide income taxation (unlike almost every other nation) that comes with citizenship.


40 posted on 05/04/2025 1:32:09 PM PDT by Stingray51 ( )
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