[Bernard]

The real reason I wanted to check the balance today is that it looks like that the national debt really hasn't moved much since January 20, when Donald Trump became President. Then I got into this significant difference thing between Treasury and the non-profit.

So is there an accurate reporting tool for the actual debt?

[inkdude]

This number is even bigger, dont know the group or their politics but here is their number.

https://www.truthinaccounting.org/about/our_national_debt

[Openurmind]

Those who know and understand it will tell you that what they show is only half of the true debt...

[Presbyterian Reporter]

https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/datasets/debt-to-the-penny/debt-to-the-penny

[Drago]

Did you go here? (Daily #’s)

https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/datasets/debt-to-the-penny/debt-to-the-penny

“$36,214,714,517,960.73” as of yesterday 4/29/25.

[zeestephen]

Individual Executive Branch Departments also borrow from each other.

I do not know if that gets classified as debt.

Also, the Federal Reserve creates money by purchasing U.S. Treasury Debt.

The purchase is a computer transaction.

No money actually changes hands.

I do not think that shows up in federal accounting as debt.

[CodeToad]

A few years back I did a thorough research on the subject and produced a spreadsheet I published on FR. The US Debt Clock was dead accurate. They update using reliable sources. Remember, the US Government uses fancy accounting gimmicks to delay reporting debt but quickly report revenues. Neither are really resolved until a few years after the current year.

[CodeToad]

If you want accurate accounting numbers, see the Financial Accounts of the United States. It is a quarterly report that shows accounting numbers across the economy including banking numbers.

[TheWriterTX]

Check out the TCMDO numbers from the St. Louis Fed.

Then reach for an adult beverage; you will need it.

It’s much, much worse.

[delta7]

It doesn’t matter, it is mathematically impossible to pay off!