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How Russian Kids Are Taught World War II
Moscow Times ^ | 2017 | Ola Cichowlas

Posted on 04/29/2025 1:45:37 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege

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To: faucetman

It is sometimes hard to tell when you have hit ROCK BOTTOM. Ukraine early 30’s? Weimer Republic late 20’s,


21 posted on 04/29/2025 2:23:23 PM PDT by alternatives?
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To: Dr. Franklin

Poland didn’t exist before WWI... Germany bumped right up against the Russian Empire.


22 posted on 04/29/2025 2:23:33 PM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2025... RETURN OF THE JEDI...)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege
In September 2016, three history textbooks were sanctioned by the Ministry of Education, all of which gloss over Stalin’s crimes and his initial alliance with Nazi Germany.

Just like American textbooks.

23 posted on 04/29/2025 2:23:43 PM PDT by fso301
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To: Kazan
You realize there are gulags that have been preserved in Russia to remind the populace of the horrors that occurred under Stalin?

The monuments are curated to a fault and narratives remain distorted enough to maintain historical pride at the expense of pursuing genuine national reckoning and repentance. The traumas continue to seethe through every aspect and layer of Russian society. But this is not to say that the West has “learned” the needed lessons either, from the Holocaust or otherwise. Simply apologizing is not learning or getting to the heart of things. The spiritual ramifications remain and the impulses just take on new outlets.

Like abortion. (Also extremely prevalent in Russia.)

24 posted on 04/29/2025 2:24:13 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

The bottom line is, each side thought they would be the one who benefitted from the Non-Aggression Pact, when the inevitable war came between them.

Hitler thought Britain and France would back down, and Stalin thought that the Western Powers would get bogged down in a war of attrition.

In the end neither got what they wanted from the Non-Aggression Pact, since France fell so quickly.


25 posted on 04/29/2025 2:27:28 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: fso301
Just like American textbooks.

We’re lucky if people can even name Stalin.

The ignorance of course compounded by our WWII allyship with USSR pre Cold War, plus the heavily Left leaning imprint of Hollywood on the culture.

26 posted on 04/29/2025 2:27:37 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: Tell It Right

Japan is worse. Most Japanese don’t even know that the war happened. Atrocities are false claims. Japan had to fight because of the unjustified American oil embargo. Etc etc.


27 posted on 04/29/2025 2:28:43 PM PDT by Seruzawa ("The Political left is the Garden of Eden of incompetence" - Marx the Smarter (Groucho))
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To: GrumpyOldGuy

Germany after WWII is one of the few that openly beat home the bad things Germany had done, and that was probably caused by pressure from the west.


It seemed like a good idea at the time.


28 posted on 04/29/2025 2:29:30 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: fso301

You want to talk about whitewashing history. Do they even teach about Tiananmen Square 1989 in schools?


29 posted on 04/29/2025 2:30:49 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

While the Banderites are in the minority in Ukraine, they certainly punch above their weight and enjoy an oversized share of power.

Stalin is not widely revered in Russia AT ALL — only by a tiny, tiny fringe kookoobird minority.

BTW, The Moscow Times is based in Amsterdam, and these days it’s run by entities who dislike Putin’s Russia.


30 posted on 04/29/2025 2:36:23 PM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "all's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: dfwgator

Japan began their war earlier than that. Korea was colonized before the first Lincoln cent went into circulation.


31 posted on 04/29/2025 2:38:55 PM PDT by Jumper
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To: CatHerd

Yeah it’s a shame that anything anti-Putin is equated with being woke, or pro-Zelensky, and worst of all: pro-Soros.

But that’s false.

America went from being allies with USSR to rivals pretty quickly for a reason.

Stalin is more widely revered now than at any time since the fall of the Soviet Union.


32 posted on 04/29/2025 2:40:01 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

How much dues Ukraine pay for you spreading such VS.


33 posted on 04/29/2025 2:40:03 PM PDT by Jumper
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To: Jumper; dfwgator
Japan began their war earlier than that. Korea was colonized before the first Lincoln cent went into circulation.

The historical bitterness remains.

34 posted on 04/29/2025 2:40:43 PM PDT by CondoleezzaProtege
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To: Jumper

Japan was an ally during WWI, they felt they were denied the spoils from being on the winning side.


35 posted on 04/29/2025 2:41:02 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: CondoleezzaProtege

And you know all this how? Have you lived in Russia? In Ukraine? What makes you such an expert?


36 posted on 04/29/2025 2:41:55 PM PDT by CatHerd (Whoever said "all's fair in love and war" probably never participated in either.)
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To: Tell It Right

Japan glosses it over way more...


37 posted on 04/29/2025 2:48:02 PM PDT by packrat35 (Pureblood! No clot shot for me!)
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To: Dr. Franklin
in much the same way Putin saw relative prosperity in Ukraine as a threat to Russia.

This is flatout untrue. Ukraine was not a prosperous place. It was a backyards and corrupt country not any better than Russia.

38 posted on 04/29/2025 2:51:19 PM PDT by packrat35 (Pureblood! No clot shot for me!)
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To: mrmeyer

or China


39 posted on 04/29/2025 2:51:38 PM PDT by packrat35 (Pureblood! No clot shot for me!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

I believe that another point overlooked or not considered at all is that early Americans were often more European. English, German, French, Spanish…..both politically and culturally. A true American culture was still evolving.


40 posted on 04/29/2025 2:52:45 PM PDT by sjmjax
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