We’ve disagreed, however, could agree with you given
Russia retains the land held now, and no NATO for Ukraine.
As for the latter, one way to GUARANTEE that is to get out of NATO, to go along with the Paris Accords, WHO, UN.
The US out of NATO effectively eliminates NATO.
and no NATO for Ukraine.
The problem is Minsk II, which is now admitted to have been a deliberate lie to buy time and build up the Uke army to attack the Donbass in a final invasion.
On any given morning, nothing will stop NATO from coming out at 1000, and announcing that “as of 0800 this morning, Ukraine was accepted into NATO”.
I have a cunning plan:
Admit BOTH the Ukraine AND Russia into NATO.
Putin lamented to Tucker Carlson that, after the collapse of the USSR, the Russian expectation was that they would be invited to join the Table of Nations, but were shunned, instead.
So, now, call that bluff: invite Russia into NATO.
And put Ukraine in the mix, too.
BOTH probationary, on condition of forward motion resolving all lingering butthurt.
The Union and The Confederacy sorted out division every bit as powerful as what divides Russia and Ukraine; put them into the same sandbox with all their European neighbors where they have to play nice with the US continuing to oversee the whole cauldron from across The Pond.
o - Including Russia would extend NATO across the entirety of the Asian continent.
o - Including Russia would swing the compass needle of international alignments in a massively favorable direction, for BOTH them AND the United States.
o - NATO Member states in The Eruozone would be bookended with two dominant powers coming together to shepherd the entire lot from opposite ends.
o - NATO Membership would invite better trade relations all the way around, giving leverage for favorable agreements among the currently-fractious assemblage.
o - A NATO extending around the entire northern hemisphere would create a distinctly inevitable sense of the direction of global trade and economics, sending a “get with the program” international overture to China.
o - This massive realignment into a strong and united front would go a very long way toward snuffing the militarism that’s been brewing in Beijing, making it obvious that choosing to be a better partner in equitable global trade is the most advantageous avenue.