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To: dwg2

“OK, I’ll say it. As someone who has done a little flying, you listen to your flight instructor. It doesn’t matter who you are, you listen to your flight instructor. She didn’t and unfortunately 67 people were lost.”

She was PIC. There was no instructor aboard.


10 posted on 04/27/2025 1:23:48 PM PDT by TexasGator (1.1'11.'11/'~~'111./.)
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To: TexasGator

“She was PIC. There was no instructor aboard.”

According to the NTSB there were three people on that helicopter. Who were the other two?


20 posted on 04/27/2025 1:34:36 PM PDT by Tom Tetroxide (Psalm 146:3 "Do not trust in princes, in the Son of Man, who has no salvation.")
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To: TexasGator

As I understand that she was on a check ride, so it was her and the examiner, i don’t know who the third person was.


36 posted on 04/27/2025 1:57:53 PM PDT by HerrBlucher
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To: TexasGator

The CW2 was the instructor pilot. The captain would be the PI. The -12 would read the CW2 logging IP/SP time and the CPT would be logging PI time. She was not the PIC.

Reference: 18 years as an AH-64D/E Apache Instructor Pilot, Instrument Flight Examiner, Master Gunner, Air Mission Commander, Aviation Safety Officer, and Pilot-in-Command. CW4 when I retired one year ago yesterday.


46 posted on 04/27/2025 2:20:17 PM PDT by Nathan _in_Arkansas (Hoist the black flag and begin slitting throats. )
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To: TexasGator
TexasGator: "There was no instructor aboard."

You REALLY need to give it a rest.



73 posted on 04/27/2025 4:55:22 PM PDT by rx
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To: TexasGator
"She was PIC. There was no instructor aboard."

Complete non sequitur. It was an evaluation flight and all army check pilots are also instructor pilots. Instructor pilots log IP time even if someone else is PIC.

100 posted on 04/27/2025 10:25:59 PM PDT by Paal Gulli
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