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Posted on 04/27/2025 8:41:26 AM PDT by MtnClimber
There is something quietly revolutionary in the notion that America, the greatest constitutional republic ever devised, should allocate its political power not according to the number of its citizens, but rather by the raw number of persons who happen to reside within its borders. To speak plainly, it is a betrayal of first principles. If sovereignty belongs to the people, then surely it belongs to the citizenry alone. Yet today, states bloated by millions of non-citizens, including those in violation of our immigration laws, leverage their sheer physical presence to seize more seats in Congress, more electoral votes, and more control over the machinery of government. This distortion was no accident. It was a conscious, deliberate strategy pursued by the Democratic Party, a modern Tammany Hall that has exchanged ballots for bodies, citizenship for presence.
Had only citizens been counted after the 2020 census, Democrats would have lost at least ten seats in the House. Today, the House would stand with a Republican majority not of a precarious few but of twenty-seven seats. It is no exaggeration to say that the fate of legislation, the survival of constitutional government, and the structure of American liberty itself hinges on this fundamental issue: who counts.
The Founders were not confused on this matter. When the preamble of the Constitution spoke of "We the People of the United States," it spoke of a sovereign citizenry, not of transient foreign nationals. "The people" were those who owed allegiance to the United States and consented to be governed under its laws. James Madison, that meticulous architect of self-government, spoke of representation founded on the "aggregate number of inhabitants," but it was understood that "inhabitant" carried a meaning inseparable from political membership, allegiance, permanency, belonging.
Nor was this understanding lost upon the generation that drafted the Fourteenth Amendment. Although the amendment's text speaks of "the whole number of persons in each state," this was a political compromise, not a philosophical revolution. It was understood that citizenship was the rightful foundation of representation, even if practical politics demanded a broader phrasing. Indeed, Section 2 of the Fourteenth Amendment expressly penalized states that denied the right to vote to adult male citizens, revealing an underlying theory: political power should correlate with the citizenry.
This original understanding is supported, not undermined, by modern jurisprudence. In Reynolds v. Sims, the Supreme Court emphasized that "the achieving of fair and effective representation for all citizens is... the basic aim of legislative apportionment." Not all persons, but citizens. Later cases, such as Franklin v. Massachusetts, confirmed that "persons in each state" encompasses a dimension of allegiance, a permanent tie, rather than mere presence. Thus, nothing in the Constitution compels counting foreign nationals who owe no allegiance and participate in no democratic process.
Why does this matter? Because the alternative is grotesque. In states like California, vast populations of non-citizens, many illegally present, inflate the number of House seats and electoral votes. The votes of citizens in Montana or Ohio are devalued, weighted less heavily than those of citizens living in immigrant-heavy states. This is not representation, it is distortion....SNIP
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If only this could get through the Senate filibuster process.
None of my grandparents were citizens. Of course they should be and were counted. Go back to the earliest censuses...citizenship was never a requirement.
Amuse understands while most politicians, not statesmen, don't.
It sounds like it would be a great court case, regarding how the census is conducted and the related reapportionment of Congress.
What would the results of such cases be?
I think we all know that liberal judges would take the position that all persons, whether they’re here legally or not, must be counted in the census, amd must be counted for congressional reapportionment.
It only takes 51 votes to change the filibuster rules.
It wouldn’t matter.
Only takes 5 Special People on the “Supreme” Court to nullify it.
Democracy!
Pffft.
Realistically, there is a reluctance on the part of Republicans to change the filibuster rules.
And the reasoning is that, we would like the filibuster to still be a place the next time the Democrats control the Senate.
I know there are mixed opinions on this subject.
And report every single NON-citizen to ICE.
The Democrats have now demonstrated that they will do everything in their power to stop the MAGA agenda.
Next time around, they will change the filibuster rule.
Yet another legacy of slavery.
Exactly.
Former Congresswoman, Candice Miller, R-Michigan, talked about this years ago on the old Lou Dobbs Show.
Non-citizens should not be counted
Maybe a clarification...
Non-citizens could be counted. I have no issue with that. It could be useful information for certain interests.
That said, their numbers should NOT count towards Congressional Seat apportioning.
Married or Happy?
The Three Stooges ‘No Census, No Feeling’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Kil2t20t18
Moe walks up a few steps to a door and says to a man who answered the door:
Good morning sir, I’m the census taker.
Are you married or happy?
A woman’s voice yells Henry!
The man ducks and Moe gets hit in the head from a flying vase.
Moe falls down the steps then writes down ‘married’
Given the current landscape of judges, a constitutional amendment will likely be required.
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