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To: ransomnote
At the Reuters link, Kyiv has updated its terms for Peace Negotiations (April 25th). Prior negotiation terms dated April 17 agreed to eliminate NATO membership; the new update says there's no consensus among officials now.

I didn't repeat all the terms below, but mostly focused on US involvement and those which are likely to be rejected by Putin (or have already been rejected). It seems Ukraine is to be the sole beneficiary of the deal.

Kyiv's terms for peace negotiations to take place:

Full ceasefire prior to negotiations.

Ceasefire monitoring effort is lead by US and supported by other countries

US to provide 'article-5 like' protection and intervention if Ukraine is again attacked by Russia.

(ransomnote: Note the 'article-5 like' phrase; I think it means Ukraine expects the US will likely leave NATO, but wants the US to commit to NATO's article 5 vow to directly intercede - boots on the ground - to protect Ukraine. This has been NATO's objective in their proxy war from the start. Hegseth already specifically said the US would not support NATO's article 5 in the Ukraine)

Ukrainian officials have not reached a consensus on NATO membership. (ransomnote: The war largely started because UK and Ukraine were signaling likely NATO membership, a red-line for Russia for decades).

No restrictions are to be made on the Ukrainian military.

No limits on friendly foreign military presence, operations, arms etc. in Ukraine. (ransomnote: This is after NATO built and equiped an army in Ukraine prior to provoking war)

Ukraine pursues admission to the EU (ransomnote: Putin has said this membership was permissable to Russia).

Ukraine regains control of their nuclear powerplant, currently controlled by Russia. President Trump had previously said perhaps the US could control the plant, which Zelensky said was impossible and that the nuclear power plant couldn't be operated without Ukrainian control.

(ransomnote: The Ukrainians had fired on the nuclear power plant previously, and they conducted a second incindiary attack on it. I wonder if the US is concerned the power plant could be used to refine nuclear fuel for weapons? Likely it's not modern enough though.)

Russia is to pay for Ukraine's war damage. Russian assets currently frozen in the UK are not released until Russia has repaid Ukraine for all damage.

Sanctions on Russia remain in place until proof of sustainable peace. If Russia violates the peace agreement, then all sanctions return.

All children removed from Ukraine are returned.

(ransomnote: Abbe Vigano has said the Ukraine has a horrible problem with chlld trafficking, organ harvesting etc. I did read an account by a shocked Russian soldier who said he enterred a building in Ukraine and on both levels of the structure, there was proof that children were 'butchered'. He said what he saw changed him as a person; he couldn't be the same as he was before)


12 posted on 04/25/2025 8:30:48 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: ransomnote

What bothers me in all the “News” about Ukraine and Russia is there is never any description or mention of WHY Russia invaded Ukraine.

Here’s background for anyone interested, plus two videos about what was going on in Ukraine.

[13 minutes]
Vladimir Putin’s Speech on Ukraine, and Recognition of Donbass - Feb 21 2022 - English Subtitles
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WH6iQMPx49A

Ukraine on Fire
Ukraine. Across its eastern border is Russia and to its west-Europe. For centuries, it has been at the center of a tug-of-war between powers seeking to control its rich lands and access to the Black Sea. 2014’s Maidan Massacre triggered a bloody uprising that ousted president Viktor Yanukovych and painted Russia as the perpetrator by Western media. But was it? “Ukraine on Fire” by Igor Lopatonok..
Https://rumble.com/vwxxi8-ukraine-on-fire.html
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pKcmNGvaDUs

Part two: [two links in case one is taken down]
Revealing Ukraine. This is why they want to hide their actions over the years.
https://rumble.com/vwy6pm-revealing-ukraine.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5-ZdTGLmZo


33 posted on 04/25/2025 11:34:27 AM PDT by little jeremiah (https://qalerts.app/)
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To: ransomnote; little jeremiah
***It seems Ukraine is to be the sole beneficiary of the deal***

This fairly well sums up the present - notice that it is all about Ukraine. It does appear to eliminate NATO membership for Ukraine but does not rule it out conclusively. A deal without giving Russia access to its naval ports in the Crimea seems very unlikely.

When will Ukrainians tire of giving up tens of thousands of Ukrainian lives in order to try to block Russia from its centuries long access to the Crimea AND addressing the needs of Russians in eastern UKR?

I suspect that the only road to peace here is the Ukrainian people removing Zelensky from office; Zelensky does not have the maturity and humanity to make compromises in order to stop the killing of his people. It seems likely that Europe is exploiting this weakness of Zelensky.

34 posted on 04/25/2025 12:00:19 PM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrap Party is the enemy of freedom.They use all the seductions and deceits of the Bolshevics)
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