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To: ransomnote; little jeremiah
***It seems Ukraine is to be the sole beneficiary of the deal***

This fairly well sums up the present - notice that it is all about Ukraine. It does appear to eliminate NATO membership for Ukraine but does not rule it out conclusively. A deal without giving Russia access to its naval ports in the Crimea seems very unlikely.

When will Ukrainians tire of giving up tens of thousands of Ukrainian lives in order to try to block Russia from its centuries long access to the Crimea AND addressing the needs of Russians in eastern UKR?

I suspect that the only road to peace here is the Ukrainian people removing Zelensky from office; Zelensky does not have the maturity and humanity to make compromises in order to stop the killing of his people. It seems likely that Europe is exploiting this weakness of Zelensky.

34 posted on 04/25/2025 12:00:19 PM PDT by Bob Ireland (The Democrap Party is the enemy of freedom.They use all the seductions and deceits of the Bolshevics)
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To: Bob Ireland
A deal without giving Russia access to its naval ports in the Crimea seems very unlikely.

When the west tried to swindle Russia out of access to its naval ports in Ukraine, that was the last straw and Russia took Ukraine back [it had been Russian since the time of Catherine the Great]. We will have mutual suicide by nuke before Russia gives up Crimea. It's their vital interest and we have none except to FA with Russia.

35 posted on 04/25/2025 1:09:47 PM PDT by AndyJackson
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