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“ to the last Ukrainian “, so be it.
1 posted on 04/24/2025 5:47:10 AM PDT by delta7
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To: delta7

Zelensky and his cohorts sure like sending white Christian men to their deaths.


2 posted on 04/24/2025 5:49:05 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: delta7

Looks like he wanted to join NATO to use them as his own personal fighting force.


3 posted on 04/24/2025 5:51:21 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Eccl 10:2 - The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left )
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To: delta7
He said he will not accept ceding any territory, even though this is against the Minsk Agreement that was supposed to allow the Donbas to vote on separation, since they are Russians who have lived there for hundreds of years.

A vote that the Russians blocked because they could not guarantee the outcome.

6 posted on 04/24/2025 5:59:15 AM PDT by Petrosius
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Trump did it wrong. If he really wants to restore peace in Ukraine, he should do:
1) form temporary alliance with Russia
2) invade Ukraine with US and Russian forces
3) disarm Ukraine forces and dismantle entire Ukraine government and parliament and whatever
4) Russia recreates Ukraine government; US grabs whatever under ground
5) after 4) US and Russia withdraw troops but US mining companies stay as trip wire
6) if NATO invades Ukraine, the US-Russia alliance will be reinstated and confront NATO


7 posted on 04/24/2025 5:59:27 AM PDT by Lee25 ( )
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To: delta7

IBTG


8 posted on 04/24/2025 6:03:35 AM PDT by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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To: delta7

The reason this perpetuates is geographical: Ukraine is much less of a functional country without at least some of the Russian enclaves. Without Odessa, Sebastopol, and Mariupol, all they would have left is Kherson from which to export grain and bulk material (I looked, and I don’t see a container port there). Hence, this war is a matter of economic survival to them. Cooking up some kind of deal looks very problematic.


12 posted on 04/24/2025 6:10:27 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: delta7

this is all happening because the russian friendly ukranian president was forced out

was it worth it?

its time to see what the ukranian people want

its time for an election


18 posted on 04/24/2025 6:51:51 AM PDT by joshua c
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To: delta7

Both sides would be wise to give all the disputed territories the right to self determination in 2075, feeze temp borders for the next 50 years along current battle lines, and let any refugees with claims to being on either side go through migration and naturalization process starting in the 2030s.

But its these 2 countries that have to make the deal. We can be mediators. But we must not be meddlers.


19 posted on 04/24/2025 6:53:43 AM PDT by Degaston
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24 posted on 04/24/2025 6:58:02 AM PDT by TexasGator (1'11/'~~'111./.)
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He’s a puppet of the EU and NATO. Don’t be fooled.


25 posted on 04/24/2025 7:01:46 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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To: delta7

This is stupid.

This is a war against Russia started by the United States, or rather by elements within and adjacent to our government, in 2014 or earlier.

The war ends when we stop fighting it, and not before.

This is really quite simple. Shut down Wiesbaden. Withdraw American “advisers”. Stop providing satellite and other intelligence to Ukrainian forces. Set a date certain, prior to April 24, 2026 for American withdrawal from NATO.

These simple steps end the “Ukraine” war, probably in less than 48 hours.

Give peace a chance.


32 posted on 04/24/2025 8:15:21 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Assez de mensonges et de phrases)
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Walk away and tell the Z-man to shut the F up. Let the lying Bastards in the EU support him.


35 posted on 04/24/2025 8:56:17 AM PDT by Agatsu77
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And, if Ukraine ends up ceasing to exist after this war, so be it.

All we've done in Ukraine is waste billions of dollars and deplete our weapon stockpiles all so our political class, oligarchy and defense industry can try to suck money out of Ukraine and off the war there.

36 posted on 04/24/2025 9:01:20 AM PDT by Kazan
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To: delta7

Quit financing this grifters war.


42 posted on 04/25/2025 5:28:18 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (Kimber .45 Be Kind.)
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