Posted on 04/22/2025 12:28:42 PM PDT by Bobbyvotes
The Tesla Model S is considered a mid-size sedan. Driving this electric make and model 100 miles per day will result in charging costs of $136.36 per month. Covering that same distance in a gas-powered Toyota Camry — at 32 miles per gallon and $3.90 per gallon — would total around $371 per month. Overall, it would cost approximately $235 more to drive the Camry.
(Excerpt) Read more at yahoo.com ...
“The reporterette forgot to add in the up-front cost of the vehicle. This is not a fair comparison.”
totally ... you either have to include lost investment opportunity if you pay cash, or include interest payments i you take out a loan, which pretty much amount almost to the same thing ...
in addition, you have to include sale/salvage/disposal value at the end of the comparison period (or likely COST to dispose of an EV that is worthless)
Finally, one has to compare expected maintenance and repair costs ...
add all this in and NOT buying an EV is a no-brainer from a financial standpoint ...
Copper thieves agree with this article.
Yes! It is obvious any EV will save on gas. But question is how many miles will the battery last? Gas powered cars can go 200,000 miles with maintenance.
I would like to know that answer myself.
Sounds like a complicated system with all the switching of power source. Is that done via mechanical clutches or hydraulic transmission?
Real-world data - but restricted in scope. I’m an anal biophysicist/biomed engineer. Lived on a trans-oceanic boat for years. My records are immaculate but I’m not going to roll in insurance, registration fees, cost of capital, etc.
Wrote a check for a new 2025 Camry SE hybrid last week of June 2024. Sold my 2006 Camry SE to a neighbor’s son for $1 at 301,009 miles. He commutes to UofFL 48 miles one way each day.
Last fill was at 8,857 miles on 1 Apr. Absolute mileage miles/gallons added was 46.626 mpg. Cost for the fuel averaged $3.09/gal her in FL. I frequent discount retailers. So $587.30 in fuel.
I insure a 1975 FJ40 Landcruiser and a C7 ‘Z-series ‘Vette in addition to the Camry. USAA sucks compared to what it was when I enrolled as a butterball Lt in 1970.
My daughter bought a Chevy EV for around 26k.
I don’t believe the 32 mile a gallon figure for the Camry
Yeah this “Camry vs. Model S” article is kinda bogus...they left out initial cost amortization ($80K for the Model S & $29K for the Camry), insurance cost (much higher for the Tesla), and depreciation...(Tesla’s/EV’s have real bad resale value...but the Camry resale value is near the top of the list). All these factored together would give the “total cost to own” for say 100K miles/10 years. (Especially for me, I keep my new cars a long time...15 years/175K miles on average).
For “Apples to Apples” they should have compared a Tesla Model S and something like a Corvette.
People should be able to buy electric cars if they want them. No subsidies. No government financed charging stations.
Charging electric vehicles costs money? Nobody has said that before now.
The article is simplistic. Charging at a Supercharger for example is. 40 kw vs. 16 at home.
It is surprising though to see so much fake news and misinformation in the comments, just repeating Tesla hating bull.
Millions of Teslas on the road. The odds of your ICE cars gas tank catching fire are much greater than a Tesla catching fire. As far as repairs and maintenance costs, the current models are nearly maintenance free. No oil change, no transmission, brakes last almost forever, on and on. Yes, repairs are more expensive when needed especially body work. Battery is guaranteed 10 years, some have been on the road 300K miles.
Insurance is more expensive, true and will be unless Tesla gets cost of collision repair down
As Trump says, people should have a choice with no EV mandates. Open minded people look at all alternatives for themselves. No surprise that the Model Y is the best selling passenger vehicle of any kind in the world.
Hahahahahahaha!
“Where can I buy me one of those electric cans?” (said in the best John Kerry voice!)
Tesla destroys the environment a lot more (just being produced) than the Camry will during its entire lifetime.
You can buy them either way. Actually regular hybrids are more popular than the plug in hybrids. If my memory serves me correctly, the 2025 Camry is only available as a regular hybrid option.
“Sounds like a complicated system with all the switching of power source. Is that done via mechanical clutches or hydraulic transmission?”
like all hybrids, switching the motor/generator from one mode to the other is done electronically ... the basic motor/generator regenerative braking system has been in use on all modern rapid-transit subway-type urban trains for decades ...
Honda’s only addition is a single gear that switches the ICE engine directly from the motor/generator to direct connection with the drive axle and that’s done automatically as well
but hybrids are indeed complicated because they have all the components of an ICE engine and all of the components of an EV ...
if you’re really interested in getting down into the weeds regarding how Honda’s hybrid works, though, the following is a fantastic video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QLUIExAnNcE
How many thousands to install the charging equipment for the Tesla golf cart?
Thanks a bunch for that link. As a mechanical engineer, I am curious about hybrid cars.
I was doing 30,000 plus miles per year.
Could not afford to buy an electric vehicle.
The warranty was something like 7 years or 100,000 miles.
But at 30,000 plus, the warranty would only last 2.5 years.
Given the massive battery replace by cost, that was a non starter
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.