Posted on 04/22/2025 12:28:42 PM PDT by Bobbyvotes
The Tesla Model S is considered a mid-size sedan. Driving this electric make and model 100 miles per day will result in charging costs of $136.36 per month. Covering that same distance in a gas-powered Toyota Camry — at 32 miles per gallon and $3.90 per gallon — would total around $371 per month. Overall, it would cost approximately $235 more to drive the Camry.
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If you look at the long term cost of ownership between an EV and any gas sedan, the EV is a loser.
I bought a used Toyota Tundra and expect it to last 25 years.
It will still have value at the end of that time.
No expensive battery to replace and no need to spend hours recharging.
EV’s were tried a hundred years ago and were proven to be inefficient then. Nothing has changed.
The cost of a gas car has risen to be very high as they subsidize the electric cars that still cost the car makers extra billions to make. Ford has lost over $12 billion and more billions in the coming year.
4 gallons of gas has more energy then the Ford electric F-150 entire battery pack. You can fill the entire tank in 5 minutes and be on your way. Electric takes much much longer and that energy is coming from a coal or nuclear or natural gas plant.
If the gas vehicle is damaged it is not written off but can be repaired. If the electric vehicle is damaged it is written off for even minor collisions as the batteries are compromised and can rapidly ignite later while driving or just parked in your garage and the smoke is very toxic then re-ignite later at the junk yard. No resale value either as the battery costs are higher then buying a new gas car not counting the subsidized electric cost.
The democrats go after electric vehicle that is suppose to help the environment shows how stupid they are. You drag a $10 billion thru the DNC and you get paid protestors.
LOL!
All great points.
I posted an article. EV have their place. Myself just bought a new ICE car, Chevy Trax.
“Thanks a bunch for that link. As a mechanical engineer, I am curious about hybrid cars.”
oh, cool! ... i had no idea about your background when i posted that link about honda hybrids or whether it would be something you’d be interested in! ... i’m glad i took the trouble and thanks for letting me know ...
personally, i was fascinated by the video and it was a factor in purchasing a honda accord hybrid ... it appears that honda has taken a somewhat different approach to hybrids compared to other manufactures ... i’d been researching hybrids after i drove a 2024 honda accord as a loaner, and ended up buying the loaner i liked it so much!
hybrids are indeed VERY complex though [and very expensive to repair], and the dealer gave me a great deal on a near life-time wrap-around warranty [basically, half price] ...
normally i don’t buy extended warranties because i buy quality autos in the first place, but hybrids are so complex with so many expensive parts, it was a no-brainer ...
the other issue is that modern cars are LOADED with complex electronics unrelated to any hybrid function, with large numbers of sensors [e.g., cameras galore] and lots of formerly mechanical mechanisms replaced with sensors, e.g., the gas peddle and door lock finger sensors ...
Oh yes I hate those sensors because all electronic components fail eventually. All those sensors are the result of leftist governments installing MPG minimums. I miss my 1977 Malibu. It was the perfect car with minimum intrusion by multitude sensors.
The Tesla is not just a “car”. It is a transportation “system of systems” and is incredible!
Correct. Also costs lot more to buy. And when battery dies, you have another big expense. But if one wants the best, one has to pay for it.
I don't think so. The car is likely disposable at that point. That said, there is no reason a well maintained EV can't last a dozen or more years for lightly driven cars. Let's say 10K miles per year and mostly charged at home. The battery loses capacity over time. Depending on various factors the batteries lose 1 to 2 percent capacity per year. Nobody is going to replace an OEM battery unless it is covered under warranty. When the battery totally fails do you scrap the car or try to revive it with a battery rebuild option?
actually, many of the sensors are for convenience, like “keyless” locking/unlocking, and push-button starting, which i’m so use to that having to use a key to lock/unlock and start the older car has become VERY annoying ...
i do find the backup camera a handy feature, though i’m still getting use to it, and the forward camera can help with avoiding collisions for drivers who are poorly attentive ... but what i REALLY appreciate are the side-warnings in multi-lane driving when needing to switch lanes, esp. at high speeds ... in the honda, those warnings aren’t turned on unless the turn signal is being used, so only warn when a lane change is being signaled AND a car is in the other lane ... OTOH, i’ve pretty much disabled all the other assists, esp. the ones that attempt to detect failure to remain in the current lane ....
Yeah, I think the one thing they are good for is a “short trip car. I have four cars, each for a specific purpose. I also live in the sticks and town is 9 miles away. I also have 32 acres and I’m retired. I could just plug in and use the electric for trips to town every few days.
I’d love an electric “side by side” for getting around my property, or an electric car for going to town. But both are WAY too expensive.
BTW, rather than replacing our aging “good” car, we’re thinking of just renting a car for long trips, which we do four or five times a year. And yeah, it would be ICE powered, for obvious reasons.
Yeah, I get where you were going. But I was talking about RC cars. However, I love this video (great Brazilian band). Surprisingly well done.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6IbEVxFPL-o
There is no place around me to even charge them.
Can’t have a charger in an apartment complex.
And fortunately I only drive about 5 to 7 miles a day.
I fill up once a month.
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