The subject of discussion is MILITARY ALLIANCE such as Ukraine wants to be a NATO member, a MILTARY ALLIANCE. Kapish?
Exactly. You are making my point for me. No great power would allow a hostile power right on its borders. There's a reason why marxist Mexico never joined up with the Soviets, we would've rolled them over and kicked their teeth in. We're still starving Cubans over daring the whole nuclear missiles back in the 60s, a total of over 60 years.
Get a clue.