Posted on 04/10/2025 10:09:52 AM PDT by Miami Rebel
We need ships now. Partner with Korea and the Norwegians. Subsidize them to start there and here. The next war isn’t going to allow an industrial scale up like WW2. We will win or lose based on the assets at hand.
If you want ships, you need a robust steel industry. We either pour it ourselves or go begging to Japan and China.
You know there are fewer than 50 family-owned forges left in the US.
All ships need ‘iron dome’ drone fleets too. Ships now are too easy to take out with drones.
Drones or missiles. Drones are very easy to shoot down. They aren’t called “target drones” for nothing.
Excellent observation!
Flak cannons may be more cost effective.
Thanks Mariner
I believe I read where Hegseth said the Navy will be producing more Phalanx systems for more ships. Although short range, they act like flax with their massive amount of rounds they project..
Blame Free Traitors™. If we have a war of attrition and can't make good on loses hunt down a Free Traitor™ and, you know what to do.
At the moment.
Isn't that a stretch?
bttt
Survival come with costs China is just waiting for one weak spot in time.
For the Arctic, partner with Finland which builds state of the art icebreakers faster & cheaper than anyone.
We also need more steel plants to make the steel needed for such a major ship building expansion, and relearn how to make hardened [ armored ] steel.
China’s Maritime Dominance? Isn’t that a stretch?
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China has 225 times the US ship building capacity. The Chinese maritime fleet is huge, the US fleet is so small as to be insignificant.
We need to get more people into the Maritime Academy or rely on imported foreign-born to crew & skipper our ships.
Free trade is not the reason we don’t have enough warships or subs or a modern nuke force. Free trade is not the reason we have an undersized military without enough armament. Free trade is not the reason we now lack the capacity to build and produce these things. We have the capacity to modernize our bomber fleet but we don’t.
Nothing has prevented us from building these things except we chose butter lots and lots of butter over guns.
When the Soviets flooded the Communist Block with weapons, building a huge stockpile of munitions and missles, cranked up aircraft and ship production, and built a huge nuke force, we matched them and then went them one better.
Free trade led to off shoring which devistated the shipping industry. I will not let a mealy mouthed globalist try to re-write history, at least not on my watch.
Commercial shipping
The US government can start writing checks right now for warships. Lots of warships and they can be built here starting today. Capacity can be added and ramped up based on contracts. We don’t have proper capacity to make shells because the gov will not write contracts for long term production quotas.
We have never offshored our warship building. We simple do not buy enough of them. General Dynamics would be glad to build more boats. They could ramp up capacity and keep that capacity. If they had purchase orders.
If China seizes Taiwan and the South Pacific we win or lose, if we fight at all, based on the assets at hand. We will not have the political will to rearm and spend the money to fight a war of attrition involving billion dollar ships and 200
Million warplanes. Those things are not disposable Liberty Ships.
I am curious, what war of attrition do you envision? Who is the enemy and what is the theater of war?
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