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Cleanest steel ever? US scientists achieve coal-free ironmaking at lesser cost
Interesting Engineering ^ | April 09, 2025 | Aamir Khollam

Posted on 04/09/2025 8:07:39 PM PDT by Red Badger

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1 posted on 04/09/2025 8:07:39 PM PDT by Red Badger
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Now, if “they” would just stop burning tires [Ms. Walz nose not withstanding] to make cement....


2 posted on 04/09/2025 8:10:17 PM PDT by Paladin2 ( )
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Instead of relying on high-temperature, fossil-fueled furnaces, this emerging method uses electricity to extract pure iron from iron oxide at much lower temperatures and with significantly fewer emissions.

So, like all the electric car nitwits, they get their electricity from the Voltage Fairy.

3 posted on 04/09/2025 8:11:28 PM PDT by crusty old prospector
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this emerging method uses electricity

Which I presume comes from fairies dancing in the woods.

4 posted on 04/09/2025 8:13:26 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear ( Not my circus. Not my monkeys. But I can pick out the clowns at 100 yards.)
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"while also producing chlorine, a commercially valuable but " extremely toxic to life byproduct."
5 posted on 04/09/2025 8:13:35 PM PDT by Paladin2 ( )
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And I supposed that the electricity makes this process work at all comes only from solar panels and windmills.

And they will just grow the beams, sheet metal panels nuts and bolts etc in electrochemical molds.


6 posted on 04/09/2025 8:16:39 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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Darn. I thought it was sharks with laser beams.


7 posted on 04/09/2025 8:17:52 PM PDT by Newbomb Turk
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To: Red Badger

I wonder if it would work on slag heaps.


8 posted on 04/09/2025 8:22:17 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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Have you seen the size of the battery packs that the sharks have to behind them to power those lasers????


9 posted on 04/09/2025 8:22:37 PM PDT by LegendHasIt
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#2: "Now, if “they” would just stop burning tires [Ms. Walz nose not withstanding] to make cement."

Heck, I burn 'em just for fun!

10 posted on 04/09/2025 8:25:24 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie ( O give thanks unto the Lord, for He is gracious, and His mercy endureth forever. — Psalm 106)
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converting iron ore into sponge iron via one of the direct reduced iron methods has gone into production worldwide, being more energy efficient than blast furnaces ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Direct_reduced_iron


11 posted on 04/09/2025 8:34:55 PM PDT by catnipman ((A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil))
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According to the EPA, burning tires to make cement is better than landfilling them. 2500 degree fire leaves little residual ash.

Tires also burn cleaner than most coal.

The exception is on earth day when individual tires are burned on front lawns.


12 posted on 04/09/2025 8:36:25 PM PDT by Cold Heart (It's a good time to be ashamed to be a democrat)
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"... burning tires to make cement is better than landfilling them"

No doubt. Better, on average, than piling them yugely up in mosquito sanctuaries.

Still, there has to be some nasty compounds in the exhaust gas.

[SO2 comes to mind as a big one]

13 posted on 04/09/2025 8:45:58 PM PDT by Paladin2 ( )
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Yesbut...this process produces iron, not steel. Iron, obviously the main component of steel, is fairly useless unless and until it is converted to steel. It has nothing like the strength of steel. The process, or I should say, the several processes for converting iron to steel, requires the steel to be brought to above its melting point and blasting oxygen through it. Naturally this could be done with wind generators/s.

Converting iron to steel also involves the introduction of various other metals, manganese, chromium, nickel, etc; to create alloys with various desirable characteristics. For this to occur, the metals have to be liquified.

So even though iron could be produced electrolytically, steel can not, not to mention all the alloys that make life itself© possible.


14 posted on 04/09/2025 8:58:56 PM PDT by Attention Surplus Disorder (The Democrat breadlines will be gluten-free. )
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Get back to me when they’ve figured out how to mix a bit of chlorine and iron together to rust proof them


15 posted on 04/09/2025 9:07:43 PM PDT by Jonty30 (I can promise I can land any plane that is in the air, because gravity only moves in one direction.)
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“Converting iron to steel also involves the introduction of various other metals, manganese, chromium, nickel, etc; to create alloys with various desirable characteristics. For this to occur, the metals have to be liquified.”

And Carbon. First and foremost Steel is an alloy of iron and carbon.


16 posted on 04/09/2025 9:30:51 PM PDT by Openurmind
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The only way I can see this being commercially viable is if they mass-produce SMR’s. Then we might be talkin’ business.


17 posted on 04/09/2025 9:59:59 PM PDT by Spacetrucker
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And Carbon. First and foremost Steel is an alloy of iron and carbon.

Came here for this.

Maybe they can make low temp iron, but unless they're going to make Lodge frying pans, they need to add carbon to iron to make steel.

18 posted on 04/09/2025 10:05:29 PM PDT by Yo-Yo (Is the /Sarc tag really necessary?)
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Maybe they can make low temp iron, but unless they're going to make Lodge frying pans, they need to add carbon to iron to make steel.

Yes, this entire article has me and everyone else who has ever worked with metal of any type scratching their heads. Pure metal of any type is typically not as useful as various alloys. 14k gold is only 58.3% gold and 41.7% other metals, like copper, silver, nickel, or zinc which make it much stronger than 24k gold which is 99.9% gold.

When I am casting lead to make bullets, pure lead is only used for pistol bullets because it is so soft and cannot be heat treated. Iron is useful for some purposes but high strength applications are not one of them.

19 posted on 04/09/2025 11:03:14 PM PDT by fireman15
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To: Yo-Yo

Yep, fact. :)


20 posted on 04/10/2025 4:08:18 AM PDT by Openurmind
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