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This video explains what happened pretty well. Wind gust greatly increased the rate of descent and young woman co-pilot flying made wrong adjustments to correct for it. Was difficult conditions and situation, which required good flying skills. As discussed, neither pilot was really qualified and should not have been flying a passenger jet.

Apparently also woman copilot flying who clipped wing to ground even more recently at LaGuardia. Seems like pressure for more women pilots is literally leading to disaster.

1 posted on 03/23/2025 11:10:32 PM PDT by xxqqzz
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Delta plane flipped upside-down in Toronto after landing gear collapsed when it came down too fast in high winds, report reveals [03/20/2025]
2 posted on 03/23/2025 11:19:54 PM PDT by linMcHlp
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BTTT


3 posted on 03/23/2025 11:22:04 PM PDT by nopardons
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Unless you put in the hours, your sex or race don’t matter to me.
Make them all do the same time white guys have to do!


4 posted on 03/23/2025 11:26:44 PM PDT by rellic (No such thing as a moderate Moslem or Democrat )
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According to one FReeper who chose to attack me for parroting unconfirmed details (which I’m not getting into)...

Both pilots were QUALIFIED and, according to at least one other FReeper, it’s due to lack of available pilots.

I can find some truth in the latter, but it goes back to one of my repeated mantras against RFK Jr (whom I never supported for his confirmed role):

He’s done absolutely NOTHING to amend for the covid crimes against the populace, including anything at all about jab requirements, let alone rehiring of pilots released (’fired’) for refusal to take the jabs.

As it stands right now, anyone in such a role remains a PARIAH for being unjabbed. That should be a CRIME. Why the hell am I the ONLY one critiquing this administration???

Let’s put the onus where it belongs for at least ‘part’ of the problem here.

“Pilot error” was what we were all saying at the time and I dispute TSB’s findings: The video showed a rather consistent high descent rate under which any decent pilot would have noted in their instruments (if not visuals/seat of pants) and applied power for a go around.

Neither pilot should be permitted to fly passengers ever again imho.

And the ‘pilot problem’ should righteously be assigned to those who created it: Government bureaucrats everywhere, still supported in part by the machine under RFK Jr with no mea culpa whatsoever.


8 posted on 03/24/2025 12:28:22 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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Piloette error


9 posted on 03/24/2025 12:31:30 AM PDT by Oscar in Batangas (An Honors Graduate from the Don Rickles School of Personal Verbal Intercourse)
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Ok, I’ll say it “women drivers!”


12 posted on 03/24/2025 1:28:35 AM PDT by Herakles (Diversity is applied Marxism )
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“Wind gust greatly increased the rate of descent and young woman co-pilot flying made wrong adjustments to correct for it.”

That’s rather incorrect. She had the aircraft centered on the localizer and the glide slope with a stabilized approach at a descent rate of about 700 feet/minute with the autopilot engaged. She had a quartering crosswind from the right, but that was being corrected for. The winds and gusts did not increase the descent rate.

It’s when she dis-engaged the autopilot that things went downhill pretty fast. She reduced power from 64% to 43% which increased her descent rate to 1,100 feet/minute. The aircraft even told her that the aircraft’s descent rate was too high and she didn’t respond accordingly with an increase of thrust to the engines.

The other thing she did not do was the flare to arrest the descent rate starting about 20 or 30 feet above the ground. It subsequently plowed into the ground, which is called CFIT - controlled flight into terrain.

I don’t know what happened to her in that short time after the autopilot was dis-engaged, but the only thing I can think of is she just froze up at the controls for some reason. Maybe she suddenly became epileptic or something.

TSB Prelim Toronto CRJ Crash
by BlancoLirio (Juan Brown)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkmuGvZaCbw


13 posted on 03/24/2025 2:29:05 AM PDT by Tom Tetroxide (Psalm 146:3 "Do not trust in princes, in the Son of Man, who has no salvation.")
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“Shocking?”

The headline writers are working overtime these days.

There were pilots explaining what happened as soon as the first videos came out. The findings only shocked people who didn’t know the crash happened. Everyone else has seen it a dozen times.


17 posted on 03/24/2025 3:22:24 AM PDT by Vermont Lt
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Wind gust greatly increased the rate of descent and young woman co-pilot flying made wrong adjustments to correct for it.

Sort of. Due to the aircraft's inertia, the headwind gust made the indicated airspeed jump, which led her to incorrectly pull the throttles back to idle. That was her critical mistake. When the gust was over, the wings weren't generating their normal lift, and the aircraft came down hard. She might have saved it with a flare, but failed to flare at all. Obviously, Delta's DEI policies elevated her into a position she wasn't ready for. Grade inflation and flying do not mix.

22 posted on 03/24/2025 4:11:34 AM PDT by Reeses
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Any landing you can walk away from is a good one.


29 posted on 03/24/2025 5:12:24 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Import The Third World,Become The Third World)
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DEI, aka racism, always fails eventually. Usually when innocents are killed.


46 posted on 03/24/2025 8:36:17 AM PDT by bobbo666
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