Posted on 03/22/2025 6:06:12 AM PDT by MtnClimber
If it makes sense it will happen due to market pressures.
I thought natural gas was a natural. The left hates it too even though it’s cleaner than coal.
I think the goal of the left is to destroy Western Civilization, not to develop anything that works.
All this Green Crap is just a money grabbing Scam and most of it is not based in Reality but Fantasy
Until they solve the battery problem (much cheaper and able to store energy much more efficiently.
The goal is CONTROL, not efficiency, or even environmental. The cleanest, most efficient of all is nuclear, which they have tried to kill.
We can never have a full “energy transition” because the sun doesn’t shine 24hrs a day, and the winds doesn’t blow all the time. It’s as simple as that.
Natural gas was touted as the "clean" alternative to coal and oil. I remember when the commercials said 'the only by-product from burning natural gas was carbon dioxide and water, what you exhale when you breathe!"
Back then, breathing was OK. Environmentalists should stop exhaling.
I very much doubt that either will ever be eliminated.
Slavery is as much about domination of another human as it is about cheap labor.
Animal power is much easier and cheaper to obtain in remote areas than electric power that must be carried on transmission lines. And since animal power is self replicating it becomes much cheaper or even profitable once on owns several.
It may become rare but not eliminated.
Agreed. And in the interim float BS projects -- think bankrupt Solyndra -- so that a few well-connected politically can profit while the many lose that "public money."
We have a winner. The energy policy of the Left has always been no energy for the unwashed masses. It would make no difference what energy source science developed, if it worked the Left would hate it and try to get it stopped. If this was all about CO2, we would be building modern nuclear plants as fast as we could get the thorium out of the ground.
The greenies have been going with the doctrines of forcing the idea, spending endless trillions on their buddies, we don’t care if this kills the masses, and one idea fits all people. Loveably Stalinist.
When the technology is there, it will happen.
But if the tech is not there, it’s a fool’s errand to mandate it.
Agreed.
And actively planting trees and engaging in reforestation of lands.
Just as a small addition to the discussion. Regarding solar, it takes more bi-facial solar panels (661 sq ft) than will fit on the roof, and 500 lbs of LiPo4 batteries to take a small one-story 1500 sq ft house off the grid down here in NE Texas. Not to mention, two big charge controllers/converters plus wiring infrastructure. I know, because I’m doing it. And, if I don’t get at least bright partly cloudy days, it’s going to hit the grid or the generator for an hour or two sometime in a 48 hr period. Yeah, I still have a light bill. It’s just pocket change from what it used to be, but it’s still a light bill.
Even if the promotion of wind and solar ended today the price of electricity would still go up. Somehow someone will pay for the $9 Trillion wasteful boondoggle of the last decade. Someone will have to pay to put things back together to something resembling reliable and efficient. It will cost more trillions.
Don’t get comfortable with the idea of natural gas being a base load fuel. We have been down that road before. It didn’t last then and it won’t last now. 20 years, tops before shortages drive prices for natural gas up.
Something much better must be done. Safe and efficient nuclear is the way to go and it probably involves Thorium. We won’t get there without crisis though. Unnecessary crisis. We have never had a national energy policy and program that lasts much more than a political season and we don’t now. Politics and inertia block the solutions to problems of the nation and this never changes.
I’m still burning several cords of wood in my stove every Winter to keep warm.
Go watch the first episode of “Landman”. Lays it out pretty well.
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