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Russia wants 'ironclad' guarantee that Ukraine will be barred from NATO: official
Fox News ^ | 3/17/2025 | Danielle Wallace

Posted on 03/17/2025 5:43:13 AM PDT by marcusmaximus

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To: z3n

An agreement that if Ukraine ever attacks Russia, we come to Ukraine’s defense with extreme prejudice?

Great idea, wonder why nobody else thought of it?


41 posted on 03/17/2025 6:59:03 AM PDT by DesertRhino (2016 Star Wars, 2020 The Empire Strikes Back, 2025... RETURN OF THE JEDI...)
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To: buwaya

“Tricky that. Maybe Russia should consider whether it wants to get into a serious argument in that direction.”

Russia doesn’t want to mess with Finland. But very soon after Finland joined NATO, Russia decided the NATO attempt to surround it wasn’t tenable. So it went after the country that had been preparing for war and killing innocent Russian speaking citizens.


42 posted on 03/17/2025 7:00:55 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The road is a dangerous place man, you can die out here...or worse. -Johnny Paycheck, 1980, Reno, NV)
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To: DesertRhino

I get what you are saying. It sounds very Hawkish.

But in my opinion, M.A.D. deturrence works.

We were too squeamish about Ukraine before the war, and even during the start of the war. It’s basically like sending an invitation. Including all that handwringing about whether to send F16s and all that.

I think the Trump doctrine is not to equivocate. Send a strong, clear message. It makes geopolitics a lot less foggy when you draw clear lines and have proven you will protect those lines.


43 posted on 03/17/2025 7:02:03 AM PDT by z3n (Kakistocracy)
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To: SaxxonWoods
already has an 830-mile border with a NATO country, Finland.

A new NATO annexation - in spite of Gen Blathers comment to the contrary.
44 posted on 03/17/2025 7:06:47 AM PDT by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: marcusmaximus

We are ready to go to war to ensure we can continue our policy of provocatively expanding the borders of the alliance we established to prevent war!


45 posted on 03/17/2025 7:07:25 AM PDT by pepsi_junkie ("We want no Gestapo or Secret Police. F. B. I. is tending in that direction." - Harry S Truman)
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To: marcusmaximus

Military Summary Channel
https://youtu.be/pth_Z3Aey_U?si=yFmyxfZB3r7tqL08

No nonsense. Just the facts


46 posted on 03/17/2025 7:08:00 AM PDT by MotorCityBuck (Keep the change, you are filthy animal! )
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To: marcusmaximus

It wouldn’t matter if the were in NATO since no members have the balls to stand up to Russian aggression regardless.


47 posted on 03/17/2025 7:08:35 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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To: buwaya

Poor little Cut and Paste War Bot. You time is almost up.

All your efforts and Lies Failed.

Putin and Russia for the WIN!

And of course, the American Taxpayer.

It’s not all that bad. You could always learn to code with Marcus. LOL!


48 posted on 03/17/2025 7:10:41 AM PDT by MotorCityBuck (Keep the change, you are filthy animal! )
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To: marcusmaximus

YouCrayne will not be a Member of NATO Maxipad.


49 posted on 03/17/2025 7:21:38 AM PDT by tennmountainman ( (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRobr 12-2-2023 DITTO)
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To: SaxxonWoods

Note: Finland joined NATO in April 2023, BECAUSE Russia had invaded Ukraine. This was a reaction to Russias little indulgence.


50 posted on 03/17/2025 7:30:46 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: tennmountainman

It might be a member of OTAN however!
Thats NATO in French.


51 posted on 03/17/2025 7:31:57 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: marcusmaximus

IS Russia willing to give an ironclad guarantee that it will never threaten or attack Ukraine or any European country outside Russia’s current borders, assert historical claims on other countries, or seek to change its borders? What form would that take and what would it be worth? Maybe we could all put up “War Free Zone” signs...


52 posted on 03/17/2025 7:42:05 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: marcusmaximus

Russia should be given the same type of guarantee that Russia gave in the Budapest Memorandum to respect and defend Ukraine’s territorial borders.


53 posted on 03/17/2025 7:46:08 AM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free ( )
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To: marcusmaximus

Russia needs to be mindful about precipitating a reorganization of
a somewhat dysfunctional NATO.
If (big if) the Euros pull it together- there will be a material change on the playing field in the next few years


54 posted on 03/17/2025 7:50:51 AM PDT by Palio di Siena (Kralik…..you get the wallet)
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To: marcusmaximus

Russia sucks, Ukraine sucks, and the Russians are right on this one.

We don’t have to like or agree to the Russian perspective, but they’ve demonstrated their will on this subject by invading.

Either we agree on the point, or lose ALL of Ukraine to them.

It is that simple.

Hey Z Man?! Your move.


55 posted on 03/17/2025 8:00:41 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (Islam’s Strategy is Effective: Out-breed and murder everyone else. What to do?)
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To: MotorCityBuck

Tell Putin to get out of the way of President Trump’s Nobel Peace Prize and agree to his ceasefire deal.


56 posted on 03/17/2025 8:23:34 AM PDT by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

Tell your Momz to stop calling me.😄


57 posted on 03/17/2025 8:38:21 AM PDT by MotorCityBuck (Keep the change, you are filthy animal! )
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To: marcusmaximus

About as ironclad as was the Budapest accord guaranteeing territorial integrity of Ukraine!


58 posted on 03/17/2025 8:46:54 AM PDT by AZJeep (sane )
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To: buwaya

Yes, but that’s also why Putin feels like he’s being slowly taken down.


59 posted on 03/17/2025 8:47:29 AM PDT by SaxxonWoods (The road is a dangerous place man, you can die out here...or worse. -Johnny Paycheck, 1980, Reno, NV)
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To: BobL

It’s amazing that no matter how many times you tell the “Ukraine in NATO!” people the consequences of that action, they still yammer about getting the Ukraine into NATO.


60 posted on 03/17/2025 8:52:28 AM PDT by kiryandil (No one in AZ that voted for Trump voted for Gallego )
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