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Can NATO survive without the United States?
CNN ^ | March 7, 2025 | Brad Lendon

Posted on 03/08/2025 2:51:46 PM PST by ransomnote

SNIP

President Donald Trump’s public animosity towards Ukraine’s Volodymyr Zelensky, his willingness to embrace Russia’s Vladimir Putin and recent comments casting doubt over whether he would defend NATO allies “if they don’t pay” have all forced European leaders to start thinking the previously unthinkable - is the US a reliable security partner at a time when the continent is being rocked by its biggest war since the 1940s?

But NATO without the US is far from impotent, with more than a million troops and modern weaponry at its disposal from the 31 other countries in the alliance. It also has the wealth and technological knowhow to defend itself without the US, analysts say.

The US and Germany are the biggest contributors to NATO’s military budget, civil budget and security investment program, at almost 16% each, followed by the UK at 11% and France at 10%, a NATO fact sheet says. Analysts say it wouldn’t take much for Europe to make up for the loss of Washington’s contribution.

If European countries unite and buy the right equipment, Europe “could pose a serious conventional and … nuclear deterrent” to Russia, Ben Schreer, Europe executive director of the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS), said in a Zoom call with CNN and other journalists in late February.

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Some people in European circles are starting to ask whether Washington should be described “in some ways as an enemy,” he said.

(Excerpt) Read more at cnn.com ...


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KEYWORDS: cnnfakenews; eussr; fakenews; fourthreich; nato; notmiscellaneous; tds
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To: ransomnote

Lets find out.


21 posted on 03/08/2025 3:40:56 PM PST by Mashood
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To: ransomnote

Not our circus,not our monkeys.


22 posted on 03/08/2025 3:42:36 PM PST by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life's tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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To: Petrosius

“Perhaps you missed their involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan.”

Thanks, I took a look. I’m not that impressed:

https://www.bing.com/images/search?q=how+was+nato+involved+in+the+iraq+and+afghanistan+wars%3f&qpvt=How+was+NATO+involved+in+the+Iraq+and+Afghanistan+wars%3f&form=IGRE&first=1


23 posted on 03/08/2025 3:42:59 PM PST by SaxxonWoods (The road is a dangerous place man, you can die out anhere...or worse. -Johnny Paycheck )
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To: Skwor

I have heard that when the US engages in military exercises with other countries, they just get in our way.


24 posted on 03/08/2025 3:44:47 PM PST by coloradan (They're not the mainstream media, they're the gaslight media. It's what they do. )
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To: ransomnote

I can think of at least 36.2 trillion reasons why the US cannot be the reliable backbone of NATO.


25 posted on 03/08/2025 3:46:50 PM PST by Degaston
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To: coloradan

When I was in (several decades ago) we intentionally crippled ourselves HARD to allow our “allies” a chance, thing is we still typically won. Same is true today.


26 posted on 03/08/2025 3:50:15 PM PST by Skwor
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To: Drew68

Are we to believe that Europe today is going to massively raise taxes while drastically cutting their social safety net programs and totally abandon their Net Zero climate agenda to start cranking tanks out of factories?


I can’t think of anything more unlikely than EU-pers abandoning the essence of their virtue-signaling identity. They live to preen.


27 posted on 03/08/2025 3:50:56 PM PST by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: Petrosius

What about when the French refused to allow our planes over French airspace, I believe also Turkey did the same.


28 posted on 03/08/2025 3:51:58 PM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: ransomnote

Remember when they laughed at Trump.


29 posted on 03/08/2025 3:57:46 PM PST by McGruff (Biden will go down in history as the worst president ever.)
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To: ransomnote

Just pull out the “T” and you’ll have what’s left. They’ll keep tossing in money and arms until the whole place will look like the moon.

wy69


30 posted on 03/08/2025 4:06:29 PM PST by whitney69
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To: ransomnote

Our support is 70% or more of the total. If we go, they go. And good riddance.


31 posted on 03/08/2025 4:09:34 PM PST by MayflowerMadam (It's hard not to celebrate the fall of bad people. - Bongino)
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To: PoeToaster

Yeah LOL even after four Bourbons you can’t convince me that’s true

Based on what the governments of Germany and Great Britain are doing they shouldn’t even be considered part of the Free World


32 posted on 03/08/2025 4:17:34 PM PST by ChildOfThe60s (If you can remember the 60s, you weren't really there)
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To: Petrosius

“Perhaps you missed their involvement in Iraq and Afghanistan.”

And how did that turn out?


33 posted on 03/08/2025 4:21:58 PM PST by PTBAA
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To: All
No.

Just like the Delian League depended on Athens

34 posted on 03/08/2025 4:23:58 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: ransomnote

Sure it can.

A group of european socialist countries importing muzzies defending themselves against one larger socialist country.

We don’t need to pick sides. They are both bad.


35 posted on 03/08/2025 4:25:44 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: PoeToaster

So, you are a fan of totalitarian dictatorships and sharia law?


36 posted on 03/08/2025 4:44:44 PM PST by CrimsonTidegirl (The US comes first, NOT Ukraine!)
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To: ransomnote

NATO needs to die a violent death for the damage they done to Syria by overthrowing Assad. Because of the psychotic hatred of Russia, NATO just HAD to force Russia out of Syria.

Now Syria is governed by radical Islamics. As I’m typing this, Christians are being brutally slaughtered by NATO’s pet terrorists.

I’m sure the Zeepers are celebrating the bloodbath in Syria.


37 posted on 03/08/2025 4:53:30 PM PST by CrimsonTidegirl (The US comes first, NOT Ukraine!)
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To: PoeToaster

You are smoking the good stuff.

LGBT

Muslim invasion

Greenie insanity

Wildly high taxes (including the VAT)

Warmongering leadership of most countries but no world reserve currency to support their insane ranting

Western Europe is going down the toilet—even Stevie Wonder could see it.


38 posted on 03/08/2025 4:59:01 PM PST by cgbg (The Democrat Party is a criminal enterprise.)
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To: ransomnote

NATO’s formation was April 4th, 1949

76 years the alliance has existed. All these years the United States is what held it all together.

My thought really is...if your country or continent had to be so dependent that over the course of 75 years your leadership failed to develop your defenses...

why is that our fault? It would appear to me, your leadership failed to uphold the terms of the alliance.


39 posted on 03/08/2025 5:20:21 PM PST by EBH (It is always darkest before the dawn. Government betrayed the Republic.)
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To: stanne

It’s an idiot Zeeper...


40 posted on 03/08/2025 5:23:47 PM PST by Bikkuri (I am proud to be a PureBlood.)
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