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Did Trump Screw up?
https://www.facebook.com ^ | Feb 28 2025 | Benson Chit Chat Michael McCune

Posted on 03/01/2025 12:07:53 PM PST by Beowulf9

Many of you probably watched what took place between Donald Trump and Zelenskyy tonight. Whether you’re a Democrat or a Republican, you might be thinking to yourself, Oh my God, Donald Trump just screwed up. However, as a lifelong practitioner of martial arts, strategy, and philosophy, let me explain the difference between what you believe you witnessed and what actually happened.

Donald Trump has been under constant political persecution since the beginning of his first term. Over time, he has learned to be patient and calculated. Tonight, Zelenskyy was invited to the Oval Office. However, both Trump and JD Vance knew exactly what Zelenskyy was going to do—he would use this opportunity, in front of the American people, to make a power play. Both Trump and Vance anticipated this.

When Zelenskyy began appealing to the emotions of the American people, JD Vance stepped in, accusing him of disrespecting Donald Trump. This was brilliant strategy. It’s important to understand that Zelenskyy is trying to gain access to NATO.

Trump knew this but could not allow it to happen. If Ukraine joins NATO, the U.S. would be bound by NATO’s collective defense agreement—an attack on one is an attack on all.

Now consider the larger implications: Ukraine and Russia despise each other. If Ukraine were to become a NATO member, any future skirmish between them would obligate the U.S. to enter into direct conflict with Russia. This would mean World War III. And if that happened, China would have to choose a side—they would almost certainly align with Russia.

So what you witnessed tonight was a setup. Trump and JD Vance knew that the only way to achieve peace was to strategically align, at least on the surface, with Russia. Why? Because Russia would never sign a peace treaty if Ukraine were admitted into NATO.

This is why Trump dismantled Zelenskyy’s argument. And when Zelenskyy, seeing his play failing, tried to backtrack and offer a treaty, Trump refused.

Zelenskyy’s real intent was clear—he would not agree to peace unless security guarantees were in place. But what was he actually saying? That NATO must accept Ukraine. However, Russia would never agree to peace, knowing that NATO, their historical adversary, would surround them. Zelenskyy, Putin, and Trump all knew this. Zelenskyy, thinking he had Democrats’ support, believed he could make this bold move on live television. But Trump and Vance saw right through it and outmaneuvered him. They knew that, in the short term, Democrats and the media would try to use this moment against them. But they also knew they had two years before midterms to prove their strategy was the right one. So they held their ground—brilliantly so.

Now, Zelenskyy will have no choice but to back down and accept Trump’s terms. But here’s the genius part—Trump is actually protecting Ukraine without dragging the U.S. into war.

By negotiating a mineral deal, Trump ensures that Americans will be involved in Ukraine’s mining industry. This prevents Russia from launching an invasion, because attacking Ukraine would mean endangering American lives—something that would force the U.S. to respond. Trump played both sides like a master chess player. In the end, Zelenskyy will have no choice but to concede, because without U.S. support, Ukraine cannot win a prolonged war against Russia. And once U.S. companies have mining operations in Ukraine, Putin will be unable to attack without triggering massive international consequences.

Don’t underestimate Donald Trump. In this game of chess, he’s 10 moves ahead of everyone”.

Found it an interesting perspective. Possibly true.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: concerntroll; concerntrolling; trump; zelensky
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To: Qwapisking

Instead of considering the info in the post you just attack the title.

Not too insightful.


21 posted on 03/01/2025 12:24:13 PM PST by Beowulf9 ( )
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To: Beowulf9

Very, very simple really.

Zelensky needs Trump more than Trump needs Zelensky.

A parasite without a host is a dead parasite.


22 posted on 03/01/2025 12:25:12 PM PST by Biblebelter
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To: Beowulf9

Of course not

Do you have a brain ???


23 posted on 03/01/2025 12:25:43 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Tennessee Nana

Buddy wake up. The post is the thing not the title. That was the poster’s title.


24 posted on 03/01/2025 12:27:06 PM PST by Beowulf9 ( )
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To: 9YearLurker

I think the author is making the case that Trump DIDN’T screw up. The title to the article is provocative but the article itself supports Trump’s handling of the meeting.


25 posted on 03/01/2025 12:27:13 PM PST by mbrfl
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To: Beowulf9
Good stuff here: 🤣😂🤣

In this thread we will post black people understanding Trump better than the highest paid political pundits

26 posted on 03/01/2025 12:29:33 PM PST by Drew68 (I haven’t seen the Democrats this mad since yesterday. Save some tears for tomorrow.)
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To: Qwapisking

Your statement on your about page says “Just someone who cares about the free exchange of ideas, preferably good ones....and great quotes”.

So tell me, do you really do that or is that just virtue signalling because attacking the title of a very good point this man made is kind of not that.


27 posted on 03/01/2025 12:29:36 PM PST by Beowulf9 ( )
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To: Beowulf9

Any American who supports Zelensky in this deal is Fredo, taking sides against The Family.


28 posted on 03/01/2025 12:30:29 PM PST by OKSooner (FOOLS!! I'll assimilate them all!!!! BWAHAHA!!!)
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To: mbrfl

I understand that. Still don’t know why it was posted. Never heard of the guy, and I generally put a FB post below a blog post in my Internet hierarchy.


29 posted on 03/01/2025 12:31:34 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Qwapisking

gaslight anyone?


Zero evidence of that. Please explain it to us.


30 posted on 03/01/2025 12:33:47 PM PST by Magic Fingers (Political correctness mutates in order to remain virulent.)
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To: MinorityRepublican
It's like Russia establishing missile bases on Cuba.

Not exactly. NATO nations already border Russia.

Russia's motivation/justification for expanding its rule, including the invasion of Ukraine, can be understood by Putin's (and many Russians) worldview that emphasizes the historical unity of Eastern Slavs—Russians, Ukrainians, and Belarusians—tracing their origins back to the middle ages.

Putin will expand Russian control over eastern nations once part of the Soviet Union - if allowed.

“The difficulty in understanding the Russian is that we do not take cognizance of the fact that he is not a European, but an Asiatic, and therefore thinks deviously. We can no more understand a Russian than a Chinaman or a Japanese, and from what I have seen of them, I have no particular desire to understand them, except to ascertain how much lead or iron it takes to kill them. In addition to his other Asiatic characteristics, the Russian has no regard for human life and is an all out son of bitch, barbarian, and chronic drunk.” --Statement by Patton on 8 August 1945, as quoted in “General Patton : A Soldier’s Life”.

31 posted on 03/01/2025 12:35:40 PM PST by JesusIsLord
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To: Beowulf9
Provocative title. The author's conclusion is no, Trump didn't screw up at all.

Zelensky's grandstanding seemed so grotesque that it is impossible not to suspect ulterior motives. I won't speculate what those actually are but I'd start the search with U.S. Deep Staters who consider a Trump-negotiated peace to be disagreeable.

32 posted on 03/01/2025 12:38:34 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: Beowulf9

Only thing Trump screwed up is the democrats act of greed.


33 posted on 03/01/2025 12:38:48 PM PST by Vaduz
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To: Beowulf9

No


34 posted on 03/01/2025 12:40:11 PM PST by Salamander (Please visit my profile page to help me go home again. https://www.givesendgo.com/GCRRD)
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To: Salamander

Read the post.


35 posted on 03/01/2025 12:41:41 PM PST by Beowulf9 ( )
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To: Beowulf9
OK here's one from left field.

Most of the world's impression of America stems from holyweird movies. I think zelinsky has seen too many and thought that is how people act in this country.

36 posted on 03/01/2025 12:45:26 PM PST by pfflier
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To: Beowulf9

The headline is misleading, not matching the article at all.

I guess it is a click bait headline.


37 posted on 03/01/2025 12:49:13 PM PST by citizen (Political incrementalism is like compound interest for liberals - every little bit adds up.)
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To: Beowulf9
Trump's and Vance's mention of a ceasefire in the near future would mean Russia gets the additional territory it has seized since 2022, can re-equip and then withdraw from the ceasefire and attack Ukraine again without security guarantees.

In brief, Ukraine gets nothing, not even any moderate lengthy cessation of hostilities.

That's why Zelensky refused to sign.

38 posted on 03/01/2025 12:50:53 PM PST by pierrem15 ("Massacrez-les, car le seigneur connait les siens" )
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To: Beowulf9
Trump did the right thing. He had the courage to say NO!
Sometimes that is the correct answer. This was one such time.

39 posted on 03/01/2025 12:51:52 PM PST by BitWielder1 (I'd rather have Unequal Wealth than Equal Poverty.)
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To: pierrem15

I get it but why should we foot the bill for a war that pretty much seems unwinable and in which Zelensky already stated he only got half the money Biden gave him.

Where did that go? We give more how do we see it goes anywhere? If Zelensky wants into NATO then with their collective defense agreement, meaning an attack on one is an attack on all, sends the U.S. into a true confrontation with Russia and who will likely be aided and sided with China. That is now us in a world war.


40 posted on 03/01/2025 12:56:26 PM PST by Beowulf9 ( )
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