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To: buwaya
All the words generated in the US, the constitution, the declaration of independence, all the law libraries, which Americans like to worship, are futile superstitions. Merest words.

BS.

All the tech in the world without the morality and freedom to use it wisely means NOTHING.

Look at all the countries in the world without what made America great that have borrowed tech are still oppressive hellholes.

America wasn't great on the world stage at that time because it was so small, not because we didn't have tech. A brand new country growing and competing against long established empires is of course, going to have trouble being a significant force on the world stage.

And Americans don't *worship* the founding documents of this country.

2 posted on 02/27/2025 5:26:00 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus)
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To: metmom

“means NOTHING.”
It means overwhelming wealth and power.

Your words became (or seemed) important only because you had that.

“All the tech in the world without the morality and freedom to use it wisely means NOTHING.”

It means everything. Humans are great at blessing things after the fact. “Your words are great”! (because you are rich). So that is now what is moral. Words and customs matter only if they come, probably inadvertently, or accidentally, accompanied by reality.

The US became big through vast immigration prompted by its reputed wealth.

“And Americans don’t *worship* the founding documents of this country” - up for debate. I see it often as a form of idol worship, or sometimes a form of biblical literalism.


5 posted on 02/27/2025 5:37:50 AM PST by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: metmom

All the tech in the world without the morality and freedom to use it wisely means NOTHING.

Look at all the countries in the world without what made America great that have borrowed tech are still oppressive hellholes.


Exactly. All the major tech which lead to the Industrial Revolution was available in India and China before being passed through the Islamic states to Christendom.


Those ideological systems passed on serious innovation with print, paper, the compass, gunpowder, and sea-faring exploration which was repeatable and exploitable.


Christendom took those innovation and built the modern world with them. Christendom is/was based on a reverence for the truth. The combination of a reverence for the truth brought about the reformation and renaissance, which resulted in Science and the Industrial Revolution.


7 posted on 02/27/2025 5:41:52 AM PST by marktwain
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To: metmom; buwaya
All the words generated in the US, the constitution, the declaration of independence, all the law libraries, which Americans like to worship, are futile superstitions. Merest words.

Your point has some truth to it, but only a little.

Without the rule of law, the right to own property and the fruits of your labor unmolested by government, technological advancement does little.

Look at the USSR.

They had all of the same technology of the US (much of it stolen from the US) and yet their people did not prosper from it

Technology with out freedom is stunted and prosperity only benefits the powerful.

10 posted on 02/27/2025 5:46:54 AM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: metmom

Amen the blessings of tech that amplify sins can be curses.


61 posted on 02/27/2025 7:48:46 AM PST by Theophilus (covfefe)
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