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[Catholic Caucus] Pope in hospital, condition remains critical but no new respiratory crisis
Vatican News ^ | 02/23/2025 | Vatican News

Posted on 02/23/2025 11:23:01 AM PST by scouter

The Holy See Press Office provided the following medical update on Pope Francis on Sunday evening:

The condition of the Holy Father remains critical, but since yesterday evening, he has not experienced any further respiratory crises.

He received two units of concentrated red blood cells with beneficial effects, and his hemoglobin levels have risen.

The thrombocytopenia remains stable; however, some blood tests show early, mild renal insufficiency, which is currently under control.

High-flow oxygen therapy continues through nasal cannulas.

The Holy Father remains alert and well-oriented.

The complexity of the clinical situation and the necessary time for the pharmacological treatments to show results require that the prognosis remain guarded.

This morning, in the apartment on the tenth floor, he participated in the Holy Mass, together with those who have been taking care of him during these days of hospitalization.


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I created this thread as a Catholic Caucus thread so that Catholics can have a reasoned discussion about Pope Francis/Antipope Bergoglio (whichever you believe) and his legacy (good or bad), and to discuss potential successors, without having to deal with the inevitable insults from our Protestant brethren. You can learn more about the cardinals considered to be "papabili" at https://collegeofcardinalsreport.com/, which has in depth reports on many cardinals.
1 posted on 02/23/2025 11:23:01 AM PST by scouter
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To: scouter

Pachamama bless him and keep him.


2 posted on 02/23/2025 11:25:51 AM PST by omega4412
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To: scouter

Marxistisotosis I would imagine


3 posted on 02/23/2025 11:25:53 AM PST by albie (U)
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To: scouter

It’s just been reported that he’s in kidney failure……sepsis.
He’s on his way out.


4 posted on 02/23/2025 11:33:16 AM PST by doc maverick
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To: omega4412

He’s dead, Jim


5 posted on 02/23/2025 11:41:23 AM PST by larryjohnson (FReepersonaltrainer)
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To: doc maverick; albie; omega4412

I’m no fan of Pope Francis. I’m not 100% convinced, but I have a strong tendency to believe that he is an antipope, either because Benedict XVI’s resignation was invalid (made without full freedom, or made only partially), or because he has lost the papacy due to heresy and apostacy. But I’m not 100% sure.

Nevertheless, I pray for him, because he’s gonna need it one way or the other. Our Lord has commanded us to pray for our enemies, and to do good to them. I will say this... as I’ve learned to pray for my enemies over the years (one in particular, but others, too), I have found that it’s really hard to remain angry at them. I think this is one of the reasons Our Lord gave us this command... because of its healing effect on us, as well as the benefit it gives to our enemy.

We must pray for the conversion of all sinners. And whatever we can say about Francis’ legacy, we know he’s a sinner because we all are. It looks like he’s not long for this world. His time is short. We do not have the right to refuse him our prayers and sacrifices.


6 posted on 02/23/2025 11:46:12 AM PST by scouter (As for me and my household... We will serve the LORD.)
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To: doc maverick; albie; omega4412

Do you have any thoughts on who you would like to see elected to succeed him? Or any predictions that are in the realm of possibility?


7 posted on 02/23/2025 11:47:57 AM PST by scouter (As for me and my household... We will serve the LORD.)
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I agree. Praying for him is the best thing to do.


8 posted on 02/23/2025 12:00:06 PM PST by doc maverick
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Update, now a “slight” kidney issue...

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/pope-francis-had-tranquil-night-hospital-vatican-says-2025-02-23/


9 posted on 02/23/2025 12:03:05 PM PST by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away!)
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Another update...

https://www.livenowfox.com/news/pope-francis-hospital-message-what-happens-if-he-resigns

FNC is reporting “early kidney failure”.


10 posted on 02/23/2025 12:12:55 PM PST by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away!)
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Technically, looks like the above is FOX, not FNC...

Okaaaay...


11 posted on 02/23/2025 12:13:59 PM PST by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away!)
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To: scouter

Personally, I think it is time for the cardinals to elect a non-cardinal. I have several bishops in mind I’d be very happy to see elected, however unlikely. But I’m sure there are others. Perhaps even a simple priest.

I’d be happy with any of the following:

Cardinal Sarah
Cardinal Burke
Cardinal Muller
Cardinal Eijk
Cardinal Albert Malcom Ranjith Don
Bishop Joseph Strickland
Archbishop Cordileone
Bishop Athanasius Schneider
Bishop Bernard Fellay

I would not be despondent if Bishop Steven Lopes was elected.


12 posted on 02/23/2025 12:47:08 PM PST by scouter (As for me and my household... We will serve the LORD.)
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To: doc maverick

Looks like Satan will have to wait a little longer for Commie Frankie.


13 posted on 02/23/2025 12:48:50 PM PST by tennmountainman ( (“Less propaganda would be appreciated.” JimRobr 12-2-2023 DITTO)
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Archbishop Vigano is a true Holy Father. As is Bishop Strickland. They both have concern for us - the sheep.


14 posted on 02/23/2025 12:49:10 PM PST by nanetteclaret (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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To: nanetteclaret

Yes, I meant to add Archbishop Vigano. Unlikely, given that Francis excommunicated him, and I don’t know how that would work, given that the pope obviously has to be Catholic. From a canon law perspective, are excommunicated persons considered to be Catholic? I know it’s kind of immaterial from God’s perspective. I mean there are saints who were excommunicated.


15 posted on 02/23/2025 12:55:39 PM PST by scouter (As for me and my household... We will serve the LORD.)
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To: tennmountainman

Let’s hope and pray Satan never gets him.


16 posted on 02/23/2025 12:56:28 PM PST by scouter (As for me and my household... We will serve the LORD.)
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I think they are still Catholic. (Those baptized Catholic are Catholic for life.). I think it means he can’t receive the Sacraments. But if Bergolio was falsely installed, or not the Pope due to heresy, then the Excommunication might be null and void. Just like the pardons from the Potato.


17 posted on 02/23/2025 1:10:22 PM PST by nanetteclaret (The Fourth Estate is the Fifth Column)
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Yes, Abp Vigano is technically eligible to be elected. No non-Cardinal has been elected since 1378.

I think the only person on your list who has a realistic shot is Eijk. Two others who are in the running are Erdo of Hungary and Pizzaballa of Jerusalem.

18 posted on 02/23/2025 1:11:46 PM PST by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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To: nanetteclaret

If Vigano were elected, he could rescind his excommunication with the stroke of a pen.


19 posted on 02/23/2025 1:13:02 PM PST by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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I agree with you about Eijk. You might want to look at https://collegeofcardinalsreport.com/where-they-stand/. It has excellent information on the cardinals, identifying them by their stands on all the key issues.


20 posted on 02/23/2025 1:17:58 PM PST by scouter (As for me and my household... We will serve the LORD.)
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