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US negotiating tactics on Ukraine ‘unorthodox’: Polish foreign minister
Al Arabiya ^ | 2/16/2025 | Reuters

Posted on 02/16/2025 4:37:48 AM PST by marcusmaximus

The United States’ negotiating tactics for bringing an end to the war in Ukraine, which were shared with allies at the Munich Security Conference by US envoy Keith Kellogg, are unorthodox but give hope, Poland’s foreign minister said on Sunday.

“General Kellogg has presented to me personally and to the circle of European allies the United States’ negotiating tactics,” Radoslaw Sikorski told reporters. “I will not reveal them here. They raise some hopes. They are unorthodox, but we wish them luck.”

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: doink; foreigners4bidenbux; karendoinkkiev; keithkellogg; kellogg; kievkaren; kievstronk; munich; poland; russia; securityconference; ukraine; yurp; yurpstronk

1 posted on 02/16/2025 4:37:48 AM PST by marcusmaximus
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To: marcusmaximus

Military Summary Channel….
The reality on the ground.

https://youtu.be/fbNVEtZLZ9w


2 posted on 02/16/2025 4:48:40 AM PST by MotorCityBuck (Keep the change, you are filthy animal! )
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To: marcusmaximus

Shut off the money for Biden Harris forever war.


3 posted on 02/16/2025 4:54:39 AM PST by FlyingEagle
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To: marcusmaximus
Radoslaw Sikorski is quite an interesting Pole. One may also refer to him as Mister Anne Applebaum.

Minister of Foreign Affairs under Donald Tusk, he has a wiki. In it, one reads in part: "In another part of the leaked conversation, Sikorski was reported to have said: 'The Polish-American alliance is worthless. It is even harmful because it creates a false sense of security for Poland'."

Why mention Sikorski's wife since 1992? Here's her take on President Trump"

Why Does Trump Sound Like Hitler, Stalin, and Mussolini? Article for Atlantic, 18 October 2024.
Combining this fine married couple's views, President Trump sounds like Hitler, Stalin and Mussolini," AND "The Polish-American alliance is worthless."

Yeah team! < s a r c >

4 posted on 02/16/2025 5:04:21 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: marcusmaximus

I’ll tell ya who I’m visualizing bending over.

This is right up your alley.

Pun intended.


5 posted on 02/16/2025 5:21:48 AM PST by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time
The Polish-American alliance is worthless.

Hey Mr. President, we have a way of ending your misery here. You obviously will be much happier on your own.

6 posted on 02/16/2025 5:33:09 AM PST by AndyJackson
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---- "Hey Mr. President, we have a way of ending your misery here. You obviously will be much happier on your own."

Now, now. Marcus, in his two Sikorski posts less than an hour apart, likely did not want us to conclude that. And he certainly didn't want Mrs. Sikorski's view to be exposed thereby.

Isn't it interesting that the European elite is busy sounding like they are Democrats complaining about President Trump and Vice-President Vance?

7 posted on 02/16/2025 5:41:52 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time

Thank you for posting this shocking information on multiple threads. You should really consider starting a YouTube channel to spread awareness


8 posted on 02/16/2025 5:44:35 AM PST by montag813
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--- "Thank you for posting this shocking information on multiple threads. You should really consider starting a YouTube channel to spread awareness"

Thanks for the nice words. I detest YouTube "content creators" who "monetize" their opinions -- so that's not an option. I'll just drift around FR and remind when those few who want us to conclude "X" or "Y" also want us not to make connections to the past, the publicly-available info, and cite sources when time permits. Best wishes to you.

9 posted on 02/16/2025 5:52:00 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time
And then there is this more recent Anna Applebaum piece in the Atlantic.

There’s a Term for What Trump and Musk Are Doing How regime change happens in America - By Anne Applebaum

Here is a quote "DOGE and its boss, Elon Musk, have instead focused their activity on the eradication of the federal civil service, along with its culture and values, and its replacement with something different. In other words: regime change."

10 posted on 02/16/2025 6:22:53 AM PST by AndyJackson
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--- "In other words: regime change."

Mrs. Sikorski and her party have sought regime change in America, as we recall the impeachments of President Trump and nearly continuous lawfare directed at him from many sides.

Turnabout is indeed fair play. Mrs. Sikorski and her ilk here and in Poland had not reckoned with this. Neither did Zelensky when he openly campaigned for Harris-Walz.

11 posted on 02/16/2025 6:38:04 AM PST by Worldtraveler once upon a time (Degrow government)
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Great. We’ll wash our hands of it all. Poland, it’s now your responsibility.


12 posted on 02/16/2025 6:59:33 AM PST by bgill
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To: Worldtraveler once upon a time
I failed to put 2+2 together to come up with massively more deepstate grift. So I assume USAID was giving Poland a lot of money to this guy and getting him elected while running a quiet color revolution against the opposition, and his wife was writing garbage while in on the take.

Every politician and every journalist need to be investigated to answer, who are their spouses and family [parents, children, siblings] and all of them need to be investigated and tracked for wealth trends are are they part of the network of corruption.

13 posted on 02/16/2025 7:14:41 AM PST by AndyJackson
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the media is helping cover and hide the true reason why Russia took action in Ukraine.

To stop the theft

pure and simple solution to end this fake "war" is to just agree to stop stealing and pay back ( or at least agree to make an attempt to ) a fraction of what has been stolen

They have everyone believing Russia is the bad guy trying to take over the world thanks to our corrupted system of information

14 posted on 02/16/2025 8:00:33 AM PST by KTM rider (my thinking has made a tmajor paradigm shift since 2020, I no longer know what to believe )
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Worse, the grand strategy of our global grifting class was to cause the breakup of Russia so they could steal Russia like they stole the western world. Utter crack infused delusion.


15 posted on 02/16/2025 8:16:05 AM PST by AndyJackson
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To: marcusmaximus

It’s only unorthodox if you don’t understand the objective — doing what’s best for this country and getting us out of mess that Biden created.


16 posted on 02/16/2025 9:16:32 AM PST by Kazan
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To: marcusmaximus

There’s a method to the madness.


17 posted on 02/16/2025 9:17:18 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Kazan

Trump is Unorthodox in the way he solves problems. I bet—using carrot and stick he will end this mess and pave a new road for Europe. Trump’s next target will be Turkey. With Russian help, this will not be as complex a problem to solve.
People who will get tossed under the bus—the right wing Ukraine “Nazis” and the Kurds in Iraq/Syria.


18 posted on 02/16/2025 10:08:11 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (. War is Hell, War IS a Crime.)
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