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To: SaveFerris; Chode; No name given ; MNDude; metmom

If you have ever read “The Book of Jasher” it talks about such herbs in Chapter 2

19 For in those days the sons of men began to trespass against God, and to transgress the commandments which he had commanded to Adam, to be fruitful and multiply in the earth.

20 And some of the sons of men caused their wives to drink a draught that would render them barren, in order that they might retain their figures and whereby their beautiful appearance might not fade.

21 And when the sons of men caused some of their wives to drink, Zillah drank with them.

22 And the child-bearing women appeared abominable in the sight of their husbands as widows, whilst their husbands lived, for to the barren ones only they were attached.

23 And in the end of days and years, when Zillah became old, the Lord opened her womb.

24 And she conceived and bare a son and she called his name Tubal Cain, saying, After I had withered away have I obtained him from the Almighty God.

25 And she conceived again and bare a daughter, and she called her name Naamah, for she said, After I had withered away have I obtained pleasure and delight.

BTW “The Book of Jasher” is brought up in the Bible, but was never put in it. I’d have to look of that if you need me too but for now take my word for it.


2 posted on 02/11/2025 10:28:16 AM PST by Morgana ( “Abortion is the ultimate exploitation of women.” — Alice Paul )
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To: Morgana

Here is some of what Co-Pilot AI has to say about it:

“The Book of Jasher, also known as the Book of the Upright or the Book of the Just, is a non-canonical book referenced in the Old Testament. Its Hebrew name, “Sefer haYashar,” literally translates to “Book of the Upright.” The book is mentioned in the Bible in Joshua 10:13 and 2 Samuel 1:18, but the exact content and origin of the original Book of Jasher are largely unknown.”

So, just because something isn’t the inspired Word of God, doesn’t mean it isn’t truthful or have historical/moral value. There is no way to know if any extant copies of “The Book of Jasher” are authentic copies, of course. I always found the purported Book of Enoch to be fascinating, myself.


10 posted on 02/11/2025 10:54:52 AM PST by Dr. Sivana ("Whatsoever he shall say to you, do ye." (John 2:5))
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To: Morgana; Honorary Serb

https://www.christianity.com/wiki/people/tubal-cain-bible.html

“We don’t get a ton of context about Tubal-Cain except in Genesis 4:19-22.

Something interesting happens with Lamech. He ends up being the first person in the Bible to marry more than one wife. Polyamory has a history in Scripture—notably, families divide, and disasters ensue each time it gets mentioned.

With his first wife, Adah, he has two sons. Jabal creates several innovations. Not only is he the first man to have his people live in tents—we can assume people didn’t live in shelters or caves prior—but he is also the first to raise livestock. He’s the first shepherd.

His brother Jubal is musically inclined, the first man to play stringed and wind-powered instruments (flutes, etc.).

As for their step-brother Tubal-Cain, he forges tools out of bronze and iron. We can assume no one else did metal work before Tubal-Cain.”

This verse is part of the lesson from Genesis read in the Orthodox Church at the PreSanctified Divine Liturgy on the second Wednesday of Great Lent.


12 posted on 02/11/2025 11:55:59 AM PST by lightman (Beat the Philly fraud machine the Amish did onest, ja? Nein, zweimal they did already!)
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To: Morgana

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13 posted on 02/11/2025 12:30:30 PM PST by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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