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Purple exists only in our brains...The color is our brain’s solution to a puzzling problem
Science News Explores ^ | January 28, 2025 | Tammy Awtry

Posted on 02/03/2025 6:36:50 PM PST by Red Badger

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To: TexasGator
Would you like the pigment information on some of my paints, which absolutely REFUTES that utter tripe?

I'm not about to tell you with whom I studied, when I was in college, because you can easily find out all about him and where he lived, once he came to America and where he was THE HEAD OF THE ART DEPARTMENT ( two different schools ), which will give you a clue to personal info about me. But...he was very famous, received many different awards in his lifetime,and was awarded prestigious membership positions in several highly regarded artists' organizations.

Here's just ONE example for you to mull over and finally digest: Daniel Smith is a maker of artist grade, quality watercolor paints, their color ROSE OF ULTRAMARINE is in the purple family, is made from TWO different pigments ( PB29 and PV19 ), and is a medium value of purple. PB29 translates into BLUE29, PV19 is a shade of PURPLE; NEITHER contains a pigment that makes black! The numbers that follow the letters, is a description of the one pigment that makes a certain color shade.

The MOST expensive paints are made of a SINGLE PIGMENT and hand poured. And yes, I have an Italian set that contains ONLY single pigment paints! WHY? Because one gets a cleaner, more true color when mixing this kind of paint, BUT, one is still able to get "clean" ( not muddy ) mixes, when using a double pigment paint. And most people who look at a painting done with double pigment paints really won't be able to tell the difference, as long as we're talking about the top quality of artist grade paints.

201 posted on 02/04/2025 6:42:13 PM PST by nopardons
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To: TexasGator

BS!


202 posted on 02/04/2025 6:44:05 PM PST by nopardons
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To: TexasGator
WRONG!Pink is a value of RED, it is NOT a "TINT", as no such word is used in painting with watercolor or gouache. It is also a stand alone color.

White gives you a PHONY shade of pink!

In order to lighten a shade of red, just keep adding water to the paint! The other way, is to use Buff Titanium, which is NOT a white.

203 posted on 02/04/2025 6:48:23 PM PST by nopardons
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To: SunkenCiv

I am afraid “Pinky toes” only makes me think of something from Toys are Us like “Ice cream pony”. There is a painting that shows Eos with roses strewn (strewn!) about her feet. See PM


204 posted on 02/04/2025 7:05:24 PM PST by Pete from Shawnee Mission
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To: TexasGator
How long have you been painting, what paint/s do you use, and what medium. or are you just arguing about a topic you neither know nor understand ?

Payne's Grey CAN be made with a black pigment and ultramarine blue; however, it can also be made with other pigments, none of which contain ANY black!

There are also MANY different blacks: LAMP BLACK, IVORY BLACK, MARS BLACK ( this one granulates, so it is really great to work with, as are ALL of the MARS colors ), and NEUTRAL TINT.

I really don't know WHY I keep replying to you, since obviously you 1) do NOT read what I write 2) understand what I write, 3) refuse to believe the FACTS that I present to you.

I've really taken a considerable amount of time and effort to give you detailed FACTUAL information, but I might just as well have been talking to the floor. Hell, I might have gotten a better response from the floor! LOL

So DO NOT reply to me; we're done, finished, over discussing this topic!

205 posted on 02/04/2025 7:06:40 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

“WRONG!Pink is a value of RED, it is NOT a “TINT”, as no such word is used in painting with watercolor or gouache. It is also a stand alone color.”


https://willkempartschool.com/the-hidden-secret-of-colour-mixing/

The hidden secret in paints
The way paint looks when it comes straight out of the tube is usually very different from how it reacts when you start painting. This is especially true with darker colours; the lighter colours such as yellow often behave much as you would expect, hence why a yellow sun always worked at school.

So the primary colours red, blue and yellow alone are not the whole story. Small amounts of other colours are hidden within each pigment – this gives each colour a colour bias.

Colour theory is misleading.

A colour mixing wheel is a great tool; it is handy to have one in your studio for quick reference.

Remembering all the complementary colours when you are starting painting can be tricky.

However, if you take the theory at face value, you are in for hours of frustration when mixing the colour you want.

What is colour bias?
Every single colour has a bias towards another colour.

A blue pigment will have either a red bias or a green bias compared to another blue pigment.

Colour ‘theory’ states that you can mix all 3 secondary colours with the 3 primaries,
However, this will only work if a ‘pure’ primary colour is used.

With paint pigments, you can’t find a ‘pure’ red, for example, that will make both a good orange (when mixed with yellow) and a good purple (when mixed with blue).

This is because the red will have a bias towards either orange or purple due to the chemical impurities foun d within every pigment. (see What are my Acrylic paints made from?)

A red that has an orange bias (Cadmium Red) will mix a bright orange but will not mix a bright purple.


206 posted on 02/04/2025 7:07:39 PM PST by TexasGator (111'r/11111.111''!11)
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To: nopardons

“WRONG!Pink is a value of RED, it is NOT a “TINT”, as no such word is used in painting with watercolor or gouache. It is also a stand alone color.”

All these sites reference tints with watercolors.

https://www.google.com/search?q=watercolor+tints+and+shades&oq=watercolors+tints&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqCAgCEAAYFhgeMgYIABBFGDkyCAgBEAAYFhgeMggIAhAAGBYYHjINCAMQABiGAxiABBiKBTINCAQQABiGAxiABBiKBTINCAUQABiGAxiABBiKBTINCAYQABiGAxiABBiKBTINCAcQABiGAxiABBiKBTIKCAgQABiABBiiBDIHCAkQIRiPAtIBCDk3NzRqMGo0qAIKsAIB&client=tablet-android-samsung-rvo1&sourceid=chrome-mobile&ie=UTF-8


207 posted on 02/04/2025 7:10:15 PM PST by TexasGator (111'r/11111.111''!11)
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To: TexasGator
YAWN...I hope you learned something; it IS info that I did post already and a more detailed one.

Since you want to have the last word, just post WORD to me and I shan't reply.

208 posted on 02/04/2025 7:10:57 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

“YAWN...I hope you learned something; “

If you had an open mind the OP has lots of info to start.


209 posted on 02/04/2025 7:13:43 PM PST by TexasGator (111'r/11111.111''!11)
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To: TexasGator
You have THE most closed mind I have EVER had a discussion with, when it comes to this topic.And your links to color theory have been, almost word for word, what I had posted many hours before and which YOU completely IGNORED!So there is LESS THAN NOTHING WHATSOEVER, that I can "learn" from them, that I didn't already know and understand for far more decades than I'm willing to divulge on an open thread, or to you!

I asked you to NOT reply to me, but you did; so I am asking you, once again, to desist.

210 posted on 02/04/2025 7:24:57 PM PST by nopardons
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To: nopardons

“I asked you to NOT reply to me, but you did; so I am asking you, once again, to desist.”

Just replying to your posts. If you don’t want my replies, quit posting sparky comments to me.


211 posted on 02/04/2025 7:28:32 PM PST by TexasGator (111'r/11111.111''!11)
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