Posted on 02/02/2025 6:31:51 AM PST by Twotone
Because of your first sentence....”Not one etc...
I’m not a troll, and how dare you accuse me of being one. I’ve been on FR for years. And it’s because of how you reacted that I don’t engage in long conversations about controversial topics like this. I believe as I believe and nothing will change that.
The try to get up to speed rather than posting a lot of emotionally-laden reactive boilerplate.
If there was a way of blocking people on FR, you would be right at the top of my list. Now go away, you’ll get no further responses from me.
No resurrection proof is in the shroud
Hour long podcast. The depth of the scientific proof is astounding.
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It’s physics, a burst of radiant energy burned into the cloth, from the inside out.
I lifted up my eyes, and behold, there was a certain man dressed in linen, with a belt of fine gold from Uphaz around his waist. His body was like beryl, his face like the brilliance of lightning, his eyes like flaming torches, his arms and legs like the gleam of polished bronze, and his voice like the sound of a multitude.
Daniel 10:5,6
You said science “discovered that it was a photographic negative”.
A photographic negative IS a photograph - so I’ll ask again: do you believe photography existed back then or not? (Hint: it did not.)
The significance is that without photography, there couldn’t be a photographic negative, unless it was a miracle.
Which gets back to my original question - Is it science or a miracle?
And by the way, if you say it was a miracle, I’ll respect that, since it was never my intention to make fun of someone’s faith - I only meant to make fun of fake science and circular reasoning.
It is a miracle which science has validated; using scientific techniques.
There are no known natural means of creating that image.
And there are numerous elements of the physical object which were either beyond the practical capabilities of a medieval forger (e.g. they Maillard reaction; the blood being soaked into the linen—remember it is verified human blood— underneath the image; or again, the polllen on the Shroud which came from plants which only grow near Jerusalem and only bloom in the Spring), or are known to be accurate in ways they could not have known about (the blood from the spear thrust differing from the rest of the blood ,in being post-mortem, or the blood typing as AB), or would have been in contradiction to their understanding (the nails through the wrists not the hands), for it to have been a forgery.
I would not even notice if you did.
One like the Son of Man, dressed in a long robe, with a golden sash around His chest. The hair of His head was white like wool, as white as snow, and His eyes were like a blazing fire. His feet were like polished bronze refined in a furnace, and His voice was like the roar of many waters. He held in His right hand seven stars, and a sharp double-edged sword came from His mouth. His face was like the sun shining at its brightest.
Rev. 1:13-16
If you didn’t want to get into long protracted arguments and
feel the need to block someone, next time try blocking
yourself from making such ignorant uninformed comments.
Surely you meant to trigger those who disagree with you - no?
“The Shroud of Turin is nothing but a medieval forgery but for
whatever reason people are still talking about it like it’s the real thing.”
BTW we can neither explain nor reproduce all of the truths
science has uncovered with the Shroud and the Facecloth too!
bump
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