Posted on 01/21/2025 1:25:15 PM PST by grundle
Electricity shortage in the southwest! In order to reduce costs and CO2 emissions, people in Baden-Württemberg should use as little electricity as possible on Friday from 8 a.m. to 11 a.m.
The transport capacity of the power lines from the north of Germany to the southwest was overused, the transmission system operator TransnetBW in Stuttgart informed via the app “StromGedacht”.
In order to stabilize the grid, large amounts of electricity from conventional power plants and from abroad are needed, it continues. In 2024, Germany will import more electricity from its European neighbors than ever before!
"With your help, the high costs of these measures for the general public can be reduced and CO2 emissions saved," the statement continues. There is no need to fear power outages. "However, TransnetBW must do more than usual to keep the network stable."
Household appliances that use a lot of electricity should not be used during these periods if possible. These include washing machines, dishwashers, stoves, ovens, dryers, electric heaters and vacuum cleaners.
Between 8 a.m. and 11 a.m., electric vehicles or batteries (from laptops, etc.) should not be charged if this can be avoided. Instead, such devices should be powered by the battery in order to reduce the load on the power grid.
App is supposed to help save electricity
The StromgGedacht app is intended to encourage people to shift planned electricity consumption to phases in which enough electricity is available and no compensatory measures (so-called redispatch) are necessary.
According to previous information, private households account for around a quarter of electricity consumption. Private individuals could therefore make an important contribution to relieving the burden on the power grid by saving electricity or postponing consumption.
in the three hour period
BTW I spend about three to four hours washing and drying Laundrt per week.
No vacuuming? That sucks.
“ Who spends three hours washing clothes?
This is just more spin..”
The spin is at the end of the wash cycle.
What gamblers, taking laundry advice from bureaucrats.
They should already know when to fold ‘em,
know when to walk away.
They should ask their neighbor France to show them how to get 75% of their electricity from nukes...oh wait they shut them down. Better yet ask Japan to build them AWBRs 1350 megawatts and from first concrete to first fueling in 39 months.
Wind or solar can be built faster and cheaper but you have to put it where the resource is.
Another Germany has relatively good solar PV insolation. 1100 kWh per meter per year given that the average German use per person is 7270kWh that means 8 square meters of panels in Southern Germany would cover that. A 4’X8’ sheet of plywood is 2.97 square meters in size so three of them in area is enough for a mental size reference. That’s not a lot of area.
Wind in northern Germany is pretty steady 3000+ full load rated hours per year is world class wind fields.
https://www.green-x.at/RS-potdb/potdb-long_term_potentials.php
Here again it’s not a volume of energy resource it’s a storage and temporal demand problem. Large gigawatt scale storage for people who don’t own property solves the issue and even nukes need storage load following kills a nukes fuel cycle costs and stresses components leading to higher O&M costs.
The grid either needs to be changed from a demand based grid to a supply based grid or large storage needs to be interrogated. A supply based grid has gigawatt sized loads that can be turned off and on based on supply in seconds or minutes time scales. Hydrogen electrolysis, chloroalkaline electrolysis, desalination to name a few are good enough for ssupply bases grids. The other choice is integrate nukes ,solar, wind and gigawatt scale storage.
Like this
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S0306261913007216
Or use thermal storage for the nukes. Like this.
https://dspace.mit.edu/handle/1721.1/75125
Either one of those also works for solar and wind in addition to the nuke, you just add electric joules heaters to the geothermal storage system so you can add nuclear heat OR turn what would be curtailment electricity into stored heat down the bore. The cryo storage already has electric compressors that can just be upsized to use nuke AND curtailment grid power.
Texas routinely has negative energy prices at night when the wind is howling in West Texas and people are sleeping. With thermal(geothermal,liquid sun), cryo or pumped hydro, or huff and puff hydro storage you can store that or run you nukes flat out 24/7 and store all that too.
https://news.mit.edu/2018/liquid-silicon-store-renewable-energy-1206
https://newatlas.com/energy/sage-geosystems-huff-puff/
Every one of those is gigawatt scale. Nukes when run flat out are in the 2 cent per kWh at the plant gate range for LCOE. Solar when the sun is out is 1-2 cents and wind in class 4+ wind fields is 3 cents or under. You can buy wind in Texas for 5 cents at the retail level btw.
Storage tech is coming and coming fast
. Texas has 4000 megawatts worth of energy storage on tap at any moment that’s four reactors worth the systems are rated for 4 or 8 hours.
Cryo is 100 hours , geothermal and huff and puff are months to years of storage time and volume you have CUBIC MILES of thermal mass under your feet.
Self imposed suicide. Since Merkel she has done more long lasting, if not permanent damage, than all of Germany’s wars combined. They recovered from world wars and rebuilt. But they will not recover from the islamic invasion.
A story I have from my time living there....
When I lived there we had a brand new beautiful office building. They had ALL the green fantasies. A green roof, LED lights, autoshut off light switches, low flow toilets and no flow urinals, cold in the winter and hot in the summer from limited air conditioning. One day, they sent electricians to replace every brand new led light bulb with bulbs that had motion sensors. So now light bulbs would turn on or off when you came within about 15 feet of them. It must have cost hundreds of thousands to do this stupidity to save a few pennies a year. It was ridiculous. If you sat more than 5 minutes all the lights would shut off. Even in the toilet. So you had to dance around to keep the lights on. AND, they removed all the light switches from individual offices.
That’s Germany. Millions of imported violent africans and muslims raping and pillaging and Merkel’s big worry is lightbulbs.
“This is just more spin..”
Not to mention more rinse and drain also...
It’s soak-ay if we’re all in this together.
Grrr
Another Germany= Southern Germany has relatively good solar insolation.
If you have a new washing machine, bought in the last few years, you do.
I have a new washing machine, and it takes forever to do a weeks laundry. The new dryer does not actually dry your clothes. I dry all of my laundry on a 60 minute, High heat. However, I will still, sometimes, have some dampness in the towels or in certain heavier items of clothing, so I need to put them in for even more time. Remember, when you could put your towels in on high heat, or your sheets, to dry; and, they would come out of the dryer warm. That doesn't happen anymore.
The way they "save" energy is to reduce the "power" with which the machine works. So, washing takes a long time;and drying takes an hour on high, with hopes that it will actually be dry.
I hate what the "greenies" have done. For one thing, yeah, the washer/dryer doesn't use as much power; but, if I have to use it for twice as long, I am not saving anything. Do none of these people understand that?
Just looked at Germany’s grid operator power matrix dashboard they have plenty of reserves, they are asking for conservation to avoid having to spin up gas turbines and large fuel oil engines to stabilize the grid. That’s the co2 angle, that and since nordstream blew up natural gas is Gucci expensive they don’t want to spin up gas turbines. There is plenty of wind in the north but the transmission lines are maxed out so it’s stranded power. Southern Germany has to either import power or so in up generators with evil fossil sunshine. So the call went out to conserve so the transmission lines from the north can cover most of the load. Here again they had local nukes and the greens shut them down gigawatt of power cut so weak kneed simpletons could “feel” better. Nuclear power is the safest form of energy humans have ever come up with. More people die mining coal drilling for oil and gas and installing wind or solar than ever have at a nuclear plant or from an accident. Mining uranium is done with solution mining or machines it’s not manual at all you don’t send dudes down a mine for it. You strip mine a pit with trucks the size of houses or you drill bore holes and pump acid down and back up.
I can’t understand how people accuse the German people of being smart ... they seem to be gullible and will believe just about anything that a goober with a title pukes.
They're woke except for AdP. AdP will not gain power in Germany even if they end up getting 45% of the seats in the Bundestag. Other parties will form a coalition to keep out AdP from forming a government.
I hear you. I could rant forever about the bureaucrat of a washing machine, taking its sweet time, always “thinking”.
And when a sensor loses its sense? 🤷
Everything seems to be manufactured to comply with a dysfunctional religious dogma. Forced obeisance for the consumer.
Q: What did Germany use for light before using candles?
A: Electric light bulbs.
“ What gamblers, taking laundry advice from bureaucrats.
They should already know when to fold ‘em,
know when to walk away.”
Or they might being forced to go green with clothes lines.
The answer, my friend, is blowin’ in the wind
The answer is blowin’ in the wind
Those are some truly important lines to keep close to the vest.
Yes ‘n’ how many times must the dryer balls fly, before they’re forever banned?
Yep, morons. As dumb as GVEA.
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