Posted on 01/16/2025 1:32:27 AM PST by RoosterRedux
Just one other somewhat obscure reference:
Mark Hall claimed to have been contacted by “tall whites” in the Nevada desert north of Area 51—he wrote five books on the subject.
Buried in one paragraph was their admission that they were not really from some distant star—they have lived underneath the Nevada desert for centuries....
This makes sense—matches Native American myths in that area.
At this point they might not even know their true point of origin before they came here—but the claim of distant stars was just nonsense they fed to curious humans they encountered.
You just agreed with posts 32 and 41, unless you are still pointing at space aliens.
Michael Masters has written a lot about this topic—in his argument the “aliens” are time travelers from the future.
He argues that a high tech post-apocalyptic human race that lived underground would develop larger eyes and could look a lot like the classic “grays”.
His book on that topic:
https://www.amazon.com/Extratempestrial-Model-Dr-Michael-Masters/dp/1733634045
I am not totally convinced by his arguments—but I am not in a rush to dismiss them either.
There are several others who make similar claims.
Probably the most well known is Dan Burisch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vvExIwUwNuU
LOL! For someone with such a vivid imagination, you sure have difficulty imagining anything can exist outside of your false dichotomy.
Thanks for the clarification of your view, I think.
They are earth people who are from and live on earth, or are space aliens who have been here for centuries, which I think still counts as what people say are space aliens visiting us and accounting for all the UFO stuff, they just hide out somewhere on earth in between sightings and probings.
Huh?
At first I thought you attributed them to space aliens and then it looked like you agreed that they are manmade, just secret technology that people don’t recognize.
Are you back to space aliens?
I still am having a problem with the “space alien” concept.
If they have lived here for a thousand years are they still “space aliens”?
How about if they lived here for a million years?
How about if they lived here for a hundred million years?
At what point does Earth become their home—especially if they don’t even remember where they came from?
Then there is where I know you don’t want to go, but what if that is our situation?
Whose planet is this?
Who are the “aliens”.
The legendary book on this topic:
https://www.amazon.com/Earth-Enterprise-Shocking-Greatest-2013-11-14/dp/B01FIXXNAM
Smartest thing you've said all day. Keep pondering. I do.
So far all you have done is lash out in angry personal attacks, you won’t or can’t say what you are posting about other than that, why not just say what you think this UFO stuff is?
So a more advanced race of people from space lives here unground and have for up to millions of years and we don’t know about it?
Do they do anything other than supply conversation for the Art Bell show and wild books? Do they have an entire underground world with food and cities, a huge population, struggles, wars, wives cheating, territorial arguments, interests in our specie’s affairs?
I can only report what I saw. I have no idea what it is. Several theories, none of them that really satisfy my skepticism.
So far all you have done is lash out in angry personal attacks
You're the one who smeared anybody who disagreed with flying flapjacks as just "some people have vivid imaginations and can write paragraphs of nonsense from thin air."
If the subject is nonsensical, why do you even bother with it? For instance I find the Ukraine threads moronic on both sides and try to avoid them for the most part. Same for pigskin Sunday threads.
If they did live underground it would kinda defeat the purpose if we did know about it.
Fwiw this is the “state of the art” view these days of most folks who are involved in this topic.
This is why many folks like Elizondo and Dolan talk about how the truth about UFOs is grim and unpleasant.
Humans want to believe we are at the top of the pecking order on the planet. That is what we are told in our culture.
If that belief is false it is very destabilizing.
One analogy would be what happened to the Aztecs when they saw huge ships on the horizon. The Spaniards were “aliens” in every way.
It did not go well for the Aztecs.
One question that should be addressed—why are they so interested in us now?
First of all—if we explode nuclear weapons in a nuclear war we would be messing up their planet. Not good.
Second of all—our technology is getting better and better at identifying underground and underwater bases—even in remote locations.
They probably would prefer not to deal with us at all—but we may have forced their hand...
On their planet.
“””””You’re the one who smeared anybody who disagreed with flying flapjacks as just......”””””
There you go with a made up lie, you even quoted what I said about the generations of UFO sightings. “some people have vivid imaginations and can write paragraphs of nonsense from thin air.”
Here is what I wrote and “some” is undeniable—”This was flying around from 1942 to 1947, to me this should show people that there have been a lot of strange and secret aircraft in American skies for a very long time, and as we know, some people have vivid imaginations and can write paragraphs of nonsense from thin air.”
It seems my friend Dr. Fred Bell was wrong, they aren’t from the Pleiadian star, at least not recently from there.
By the way, we aren’t the Aztecs, we have explored this planet pretty well and while for science the exploring and study will be endless and forever, it would be difficult to hide what must be a huge advanced world and its peoples and factories, and mining etc. from us.
Why would they own the planet and want to hide from us anyway, and what about their factories and manufacturing plants making those ships and their buildings and society?
My wife and I choose to live way out in the woods.
We still have all the modern conveniences but don’t have to deal with noise, traffic, city lights etc.
Maybe that is why I can easily understand the concept of privacy and why it might be so important to some cultures.
With advanced technology it would be possible to carve out paradises in areas of the planet previously thought inaccessible or unusable.
Rumors throughout the ages of hidden civilizations:
—Inside mountains
—Beneath the ocean floor
—In caverns deep beneath the planet
—Under Antarctica or the Arctic region
Humans are getting better and better at exploring all of these regions—which means humans may be starting to invade their privacy.
Please prove that statement.
“””””With advanced technology it would be possible to carve out paradises in areas of the planet previously thought inaccessible or unusable.”””””
The catch all of them being magic, we can’t detect their factories and mining, and carving vast cities under us, but they are sure clumsy when they fly around in factory made aircraft.
"...By the early 1900s, all surgeons were wearing sterile rubber gloves..."
Imagine you are an Amazonian tribe.
There are rumors of strange folks from distant lands but you almost never see any.
Then one day an airplane crashes near you.
How could such amazing people with such magical powers have an airplane crash?
It is a mystery.
Lol.
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