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The most important 16 words of the article:

"Below the surface level, their political ideologies could not be further apart. Roosevelt was a progressive."

1 posted on 01/13/2025 10:33:20 AM PST by ProgressingAmerica
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Progressives do not want to discuss their own history. I want to discuss their history.

Summary: A blatantly false narrative: so who benefits the most from making a Trump/TR comparison that cannot withstand simple scrutiny?

2 posted on 01/13/2025 10:39:20 AM PST by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot vote our way out of these problems. The only way out is to activist our way out.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Both Roosevelt’s were................


3 posted on 01/13/2025 10:39:28 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

kabuki theatre...I was under the impression that it was a pretend conflict. The combatants are pretending — something like Washington Generals vs. Harlem Globetrotters...

I don’t think Trump is pretending.


5 posted on 01/13/2025 10:44:59 AM PST by scrabblehack
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To: ProgressingAmerica

As much as I love the one excellent thing TR did with the creation of the NPS, along with his amazingly dynamic character - he was, otherwise, one of the worst bearers of calamity that occupied the office.

His 1912 ‘Bull Moose’ tantrum party spoiled the chance of a fine candidate ( Taft ), and brought us the horror of Woodrow Wilson, whose acts still grind at this nation’s substance.


7 posted on 01/13/2025 11:21:05 AM PST by larrytown (A Cadet will not lie, cheat, steal, or tolerate those who do. Then they graduate...)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

Rush would have been 74 yesterday.


8 posted on 01/13/2025 11:33:28 AM PST by NurdlyPeon (It is the nature of liberals to pervert whatever they touch.)
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To: ProgressingAmerica

I like Dan Bongino’s take. They are telling A story not THE story.


9 posted on 01/13/2025 11:36:33 AM PST by pas
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To: ProgressingAmerica

The democrat party has been destroying the Constitution from the day it was founded the list is a long one.

It’s why things are what they are now.

Media approved (not so silent party members)


10 posted on 01/13/2025 12:14:09 PM PST by Vaduz
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To: ProgressingAmerica

What, Atlantic makes no comparison of the “nationalism” of TR, aka, centralization and socialism, versus the nationalism of Trump, aka patriotism?

Hmm, and which form of nationalism has Atlantic, etc. compared to Hitler?


15 posted on 01/13/2025 3:00:27 PM PST by nicollo (Trump beat the cheat! )
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The most important 16 words of the article:

"Below the surface level, their political ideologies could not be further apart. (Theodore) Roosevelt was a progressive."

16 posted on 01/13/2025 9:53:43 PM PST by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot vote our way out of these problems. The only way out is to activist our way out.)
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Progressivism included different strands of thought. Roosevelt and Taft were very close early on. Later, Roosevelt fell under the influence of more radical progressive intellectuals and moved further left.

About TR and DJT: their constitutional philosophies are different, but there are similarities in their philosophies of the presidency and the nation (if “philosophy” is the right word).

When it comes to the presidency their starting points are different. Roosevelt increased the powers of the presidency beyond what earlier presidents made use of. Trump is working with the greater powers that presidents now have.


24 posted on 01/16/2025 5:51:41 AM PST by x
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Let me just ask you this question. What am I supposed to do with this piece of information in the context of understanding who this president was?
I have always believed that it would also be necessary to give the National Government complete power over the organization and capitalization of all business concerns engaged in inter-State commerce. - Theodore Roosevelt, Autobiography, pate 560

https://archive.org/details/theodorerooseve07roosgoog/page/559/mode/2up

Did you notice the "always"? I'll tell you what I'm NOT supposed to do with this, and that's ignore it. I'm also NOT supposed to make excuses for it, or dissemble over it.

What do I do from this what can we learn from this?

49 posted on 02/03/2025 11:04:46 AM PST by ProgressingAmerica (We cannot vote our way out of these problems. The only way out is to activist our way out.)
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