Posted on 01/12/2025 5:08:12 PM PST by Paul R.
In this episode, Sal Mercogliano—a maritime historian at Campbell University (@campbelledu) and former merchant mariner — discusses the use of seawater and how it can be utilized to fight the wildfires in southern California.
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Exactly. I know about alfalfa and the Alaskin lupin, because oil and coal companies use them to heal the soil back to health ph levels before they take the next steps to reclaiming the land.
Even if you had a Chyrnobyl, the land can be recovered with the use of plants.
Buckhead, and I have no idea who that is, left because of “people like me”. A comment with absolutely no meaning used by people who have mo real defense.
Salt water and teslas/evs don’t mix do they?
What diatribe? The dude is talking about things like pump capacity, corrosion, the better firefighting water supply system in San Francisco, and so on.
If it’s too technical for you, I understand.
Go ahead, I am always interested in learning new things — that is, if presented rationally.
I fail to see what your problem is, other than aversion of technical subjects. What about the vid is a “diatribe”? There have been many posts throughout social media, including FR, asking why not use seawater to fight the LA fires, and the vid makes a good case both debunking arguments against, and lays out some of the practicalities. Some here found the vid interesting, which is good enough for me. :-)
I know of a couple cases locally where exactly that was done — pump water from swimming pools to fight fires. The credit part, “I dunno”, but it seems reasonable.
Right. It all depends on the material and corrosion protection. A company I did several years of consulting work for in the past, is in Mirimar, FL, and they literally do corrosion testing of their products 24/7, in specially made chambers produced for that very purpose. Just the salt crystals in the air there can be problematic, not to mention salt spray or immersion such as you speak of! OTOH, properly manufactured gear (not often seen from China!) can hold up a long time.
You are most welcome!
It might be hard to get the big tanker planes down into some of those lakes. There have been multiple references from various news channels to the choppers drawing from the lakes, however. Maybe that only applies to some lakes?
The “scooper” planes can draw from the ocean if it is not too rough. How rough that is, I don’t know. Sucking up water would work in rough seas, but I’m sure it is much slower.
The everything done right comment was only in regard to the firefighting. The prevention part is obvious.
Why go to the trouble of treating or desalinizing water for fighting fires?
Upfront costs are higher, but San Francisco’s dual system makes a lot of sense in the long run.
Indeed, a project my Dad, a Forestry Professor, was heavily involved in was treating certain strip mined land with sewage! (There were various beneficial chemical and bio-chemical reactions.) It never caught on, partially because it was easier for the State to just force the mining company to lay the earth back down, minus the coal, the same way (more or less) it had originally been. Then Dad got involved in the reforestation (etc.) efforts. One of those ended up going more grassland than forest, but is now the largest State Park in IL.
The planes were grounded to the high winds.
Bingo! Best post of 2025.
Hurricanes Helene and Milton both caused significant storm surges in coastal areas. Unfortunately, most plants impacted by saltwater flooding will not survive. The plants sprayed by sea water to put out the fires will end up as dried up vegetation that needs to cleaned out before the next fire uses it as fuel to become a wild fire.
Because it would have killed the delta smelt. (Sarc)
A rational person would have prioritized the concern about saltwater downwards, but we are dealing with liberals.
I’ve no argument with you there. :-)
Nice pic, BTW!
Oops - sorry, nice pic was the next poster!
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