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White people shouldn’t mess with it’: Native American church laments psychedelic cactus shortage
The guardian ^ | Edward Helmore

Posted on 01/12/2025 5:43:41 AM PST by Strict9

“This is a Native American sacred medicine and we don’t want people messing around with it,” said a Navajo member of the church from a congregation in Rio Grande City, Texas, who asked not to be identified. “The Natives people don’t like it. White people shouldn’t mess around with it.”

The Native American Church originated in the late 19th century in the Oklahoma Territory after peyote was introduced

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat
KEYWORDS: cactus; cheechandchongchurch; drugs; indians; nativeamerican; peacepipe; peyote; psychedelics; sacredmedicine; stuned; wboopi
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We took everything from these indians, now we’re taking all their magic cacti so they can’t commune with drug-induced Jesus ( the “J” is silent)
1 posted on 01/12/2025 5:43:41 AM PST by Strict9
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they sound like a bunch of racists


2 posted on 01/12/2025 5:44:57 AM PST by imabadboy99
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Maybe they can grow some private supply?


3 posted on 01/12/2025 5:47:34 AM PST by Jonty30 (Liberals are a fulfillment of II Tim3:5. We are instructed to have nothing to do with those people. )
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it takes years for that stuff to grow- ain’t nobody got time for that!


4 posted on 01/12/2025 5:48:56 AM PST by Strict9
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Tobacco’s legal. Look at all the fun the world has had with that! 👶


5 posted on 01/12/2025 5:53:07 AM PST by BradyLS (DO NOT FEED THE BEARS!)
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To: Strict9

They found an anonymous racist Indian and wrote an article about it.


6 posted on 01/12/2025 5:53:28 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (This is the end of the Republic....because we could not keep it.)
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I’m no Columbo, but all the “indians” in the article have names like Jose Sanchez and Guadeloupe Hernandez— I’m starting to think these are just mexicans who like to smoke the dope?


7 posted on 01/12/2025 5:55:45 AM PST by Strict9
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“””””Under US federal law, mescaline is a controlled substance, but a 1994 exemption to the American Indian Religious Freedom Act made it legal for Native Americans to use”””””

Clinton created a lot of new racist stuff.


8 posted on 01/12/2025 5:56:08 AM PST by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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She’s right. White people shouldn’t mess with it. Neither should any other color of people.


9 posted on 01/12/2025 6:14:12 AM PST by Opinionated Blowhard (When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.)
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Let’s face facts...the Southwestern Natives were all Mexican until the treaty. Then, anyone north of the border became Native American, everyone south of it became Mexican.


10 posted on 01/12/2025 6:18:53 AM PST by dware (Americans prefer peaceful slavery over dangerous freedom)
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So are they going to pass on the benefits of Western tech and culture as well?


11 posted on 01/12/2025 6:21:22 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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I’m going to take the other dude if this. I’m sure fakers join in to get stoned, but peyote is a real aspect of some native American religions, comparable to wine in Christian churches. During prohibition sacred wine was exempt, but the Feds banned Peyote and then in a devastating blow to religious liberty, Scalia wrote the opinion upholding Federal interference in religion if it is facially neutral.

We conservatives should look for opportunities to build bridges. Some polls say native Americans voted the most pro Trump of any racial group. It would be nice to support them in something that is, for them, genuinely conservative.


12 posted on 01/12/2025 6:30:17 AM PST by edwinland
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*other side of this” 😭


13 posted on 01/12/2025 6:31:24 AM PST by edwinland
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To: Strict9

IMHO, Hispanic is a misnomer. I’d venture those labelled as such have more Amerindian genetics than Spanish.


14 posted on 01/12/2025 6:32:47 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America.)
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To: ansel12

Cultural

Not racial


15 posted on 01/12/2025 6:33:40 AM PST by bert ( (KE. NP. +12) Where is ZORRO when California so desperately needs him?)
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I would venture that they are 4-foot-tall Aztec Indians


16 posted on 01/12/2025 6:34:23 AM PST by Strict9
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Don’t the Native Americans know it’s the Puerto Rica d that are doing it?


17 posted on 01/12/2025 6:34:26 AM PST by wildcard_redneck
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To: edwinland

How did the pastafarians vote?


18 posted on 01/12/2025 6:36:19 AM PST by GranTorino (Bloody Lips Save Ships)
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Nope, it is a,product of the earth, not meant for any 1 group! If Indians can use it for ritual reasons, the so can’t anyone else if they have a mind to. Just because someone is of Indian descent doesn’t mean the plant was created exclusively for them! Pretty greedy and selfish of them to claim its only for them. Now, if they wanna plant farms of it privately, then yeah, they can ban anyone they like from partaking of private produce- u til then though, nope, it is not THEIR own private stash


19 posted on 01/12/2025 6:38:49 AM PST by Bob434
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“Psychedelic Cactus” - sounds like a good name for a rock band, to paraphrase Dave Barry.


20 posted on 01/12/2025 6:39:31 AM PST by Bernard (Issue an annual budget. And Issue a federal government balance sheet. Let's see what we got.)
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