Funny how that is exactly Russia’s position, which isn’t surprising given your constant shilling for Putin here.
Here is what the Ukrainians counteroffer should be:
1. All Russian and North Korean troops leave Ukraine, including Crimea and restore its sovereignty based on agreed borders in 1991.
2. Russia pays Ukraine reparations for all damage done in the war.
3. Putin and his generals are prosecuted for the war crimes they have committed.
4. Ukraine, as a free and sovereign nation, can join whatever security pact they damn well please.
Not 1 American Solder either Directly or thru NATO
will be deployed to YouCrayne.
You Zeepers go volunteer in YouCrayne to Push Ruzzia out.
“Funny how that is exactly Russia’s position”
Actually, I don’t think Putin goes far enough if he wants to end the war and prevent it starting again - that’s why I added an extra clause, which is the US pulling back.
But here’s the problem you guys now have: TRUMP WON, and on top of that Trump sounds like he’s staying away from the Neocon Koolaid regarding Ukraine, since he said he ‘understands’ why Russia had to invade. Can’t say that I blame him for not listening to the Neocons - after all, the Neocons, along with Democrat Ukrainian corruption, were responsible for Trump being IMPEACHED.
As to the future - Trump takes office in 11 days and will likely work the Ukraine issue himself, since he’s clearly done his homework in understanding why the war happened in the first place. He’s giving it 100 days and if nothing happens, he’s likely out of there and Europe can try to clean up the mess that they helped make. But, most likely, Ukraine will take whatever Russia offers them, and it won’t be much.
You guys should have TALKED to Putin as that probably would have prevented the mess we now have.