Stalin killed millions. A Stanford historian answers the question, was it genocide?

Stanford Report ^ | 9/23/10 | Stanford Report

[DallasBiff]

Historian Norman Naimark argues that today's narrow definition of genocide is Stalin's lasting legacy

Murder on a national scale, yes – but is it genocide? “The word carries a powerful punch,” said Stanford history Professor Norman Naimark. “In international courts, it’s considered the crime of crimes.”

[DallasBiff]

Oh sheesh, the leftists trying to forgive stalin.

I know from 14 years ago, but the modern American left will never give up stalin as a hero.

[Larry Lucido]

“One death is a tragedy, a million is a statistic”

[No name given]

That’s how out of touch with reality the left is.

[chajin]

Genocide Olympics.

Gold: Mao Zedong
Silver: Josef Stalin
Bronze: tie - Adolf Hitler, Showa (aka Hirohito)

[SoConPubbie]

That’s how out of touch with reality the left is.

No. That's how evil they are!

[Twotone]

Genocide is defined as the deliberate and systematic destruction of a national, ethnic, racial, or religious group. That’s not what Stalin did. He was simply murdering everyone & anyone that was a problem to him & his gov’t.

“Mass murder” doesn’t seem up to describing what Stalin did. But “genocide” isn’t really appropriate, either.

[Jim W N]

Stalin killed many more than Hitler.

But the greatest modern-day murderer is Chairman Mao. I’ve heard hundreds of thousands died at his hand.

[Leaning Right]

> the modern American left will never give up Stalin as a hero <

You can’t buy a Confederate flag shirt on Amazon. But you can buy a Stalin shirt. Funny thing, that.

Available on Amazon:

[Nextrush]

Some folks here need to get their history straight Stalin killed more than Hitler and Chairman Mao killed more than both Stalin and Hitler combined.

I get the impression some people want you to believe that Vladimir Putin is some evil guy who killed billions.

[lurk]

Take away the value of man as God made them, and mass death becomes equal to buying a loaf of bread.

[BenLurkin]

bttt

[Tom Tetroxide]

The intelligencia in the 40s/50s, before he kicked the bucket, referred to him lovingly as “Uncle Joe” and wouldn’t believe all the stories coming out of the Soviet Union about how he was mass murdering those within their borders.

[ryderann]

Don’t forget Pol Pot. He murdered a couple million folks.

[TTFX]

You can’t buy a Confederate flag shirt on Amazon. But you can buy a Stalin shirt.

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Similar to posters in college dorms.

[omega4412]

“Bloodlands” agrees with you. A book about the killings in Central Europe in the Hitler-Stalin era. The grimmest history book I’ve ever read.

[Vaduz]

Indeed truth has no mask

[heartwood]

Just the Ukranians and the Kazhaks. Everyone else was a freebie.

[cowboyusa]

1. Pol Pot by percentage. Marx.

[Pete from Shawnee Mission]

I’ve heard hundreds of thousands died at his hand.

Including the Chinese who died from starvation due to Mao's Agricultural Mismanagement more like 50 million.

Then there was Genghis Khan, and his millions; Destruction_under_the_Mongol_Empire snip...

"The Mongol conquests resulted in widespread and well-documented death and destruction throughout Eurasia, as the Mongol army invaded hundreds of cities and killed millions of people. One estimate is that approximately 10% of the contemporary global population, amounting to some 37.75–60 million people, was killed either during or immediately after the Mongols' military campaigns.[8] As such, the Mongol Empire, which remains the largest contiguous polity to ever have existed, is regarded as having perpetrated some of the deadliest acts of mass killing in human history. "

Islamic-India-Holocaust world history

Then there is the centuries long holocaust by Islam in India which is totally overlooked by every modern liberal. The body count given was based on the boasting records left by the Muslim rulers themselves. (See the link for particulars.)

Snip....."The World seems to either ignore or just does not seem to care about the many millions of lives lost during the 800 – year long holocaust of Hindus, Sikhs and Buddhist in India.

The Indian historian Professor K.S. Lal estimates that the Hindu population in India decreased by 80 million between 1000 AD and 1525 AD, an extermination unparalleled in World history. This slaughter of millions of people occurred over regular periods during many centuries of Arab, Afghan, Turkish and Mughal rule in India.

[NorthMountain]

Compared to Stalin and Mao (and for percentage, Pol Pot), Hitler was small-time. But he was a National Socialist not a communist, so communists in Big Media, Big Entertainment, and Big Education vilify Hitler, while covering and making excuses for various communists.