Posted on 12/25/2024 5:52:14 PM PST by blueplum
The Vatican is set to open five sacred portals starting on Christmas Eve for the first time in 25 years.
The opening of the Holy Doors marks the beginning of the 2025 Jubilee which is a year of forgiveness, reconciliation and renewed focus on the spiritual life....
At the start of Christmas Eve Mass, Pope Francis will push open the Holy Door in St Peter’s Basilica, which will stay open throughout the year to allow the estimated 32 million pilgrims projected to visit Rome to pass through....
The process of opening the four basilica doors involves removing the brick wall that covers each door from the inside of the basilica, followed by the Pope pushing the doors open to signal the beginning of the Holy Year.
When Jubilee finishes on January 6, 2026, the Pope will be the last person to walk through each of the four doors before closing them, which will then be bricked up and sealed....
(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...
Seriously? LOL.
Matthew, John, Peter, James, and Jude were Apostles and were there for the whole show. Mark wrote his Gospel based on Peter's recollections. Luke based his work on Paul's and probably Mary's recollections. Paul is, as he says, the odd man out, but he checked his understandings against those of the original Apostles.
I said MLK, I meant ML, got carried away.
I wonder if there's some kind of display in the Basilica that says to enjoy the building because the funding of this building through indulgences led to the largest schism in the RCC's history (Protestant Reformation).
Pope Leo X on March 15, 1517 regarding indulgences:absolve you ...from all thy sins, transgressions, and excesses, how enormous soever they be...and remit to you all punishment which you deserve in purgatory on their account and I restore you...to the innocence and purity which you possessed at baptism; so that when you die the gates of punishment shall be shut... and if you shall not die at present, this grace shall remain in full force when you are at the point of death
No, they aren’t. Sola scriptura isn’t even logical, since it depends on a canon established by church tradition. The is no such thing as a “many portals heresy”.
There are no “sacred portals,” Catholics.
BS, and it was all written 50-100 years after the death?
Hard to believe I visited The Vatican and passed through the holy doors 50 years ago. Long before the white puff of smoke signaled Pope Francis.
For Catholics a Door to a Church is considered Holy since it is a gateway from the secular profane world with the reality of sin to a Church where the Sacraments, visible signs of God’s Grace are fully made available by Christ to the faithful (his Body the Church]. So a Church is a Holy place, a Door to a Church by extension is Holy, the altar in the center of the Church is Holy, the Bible read in Church is Holy, the Icons of and paintings of Christ and the Saints are considered Holy.
The are sacred because they are signs of something deeper in that they point to the Triune God and Mysteries of the faith. We are not iconoclasts.
...I DO NOT miss Gay Francis!
Technically, “holy” means “without sin,” “pure, morally blameless,” or “set apart” A physical item cannot be sinful or sin-free, as it has no soul and is not human.
As for what is a “church,” that is clearly the Body of Believers in Christ who are meeting. Romans 16:5 says this. The building is not “holy.”
In 1 Corinthians 3:16-17, we learn we are the temple of God.
Are there any insights you can provide to further clarify?
;-)
4+ is many...
And is it any wonder why I’m no longer religious
Again when you say how they line up with the Bible, mind you that I always interpret that to mean how “insert person here” that I am talking to interprets the Bible. The 7th Ecumencial Council at Nicea in 787 that the veneration/honor of an image or thing passes to that which it ultimately represents. So the Holy “things” in a Church ultimately point to the Holy Trinity and are Holy because of God. Ultimately this is all rooted back to the Dogma of the Incarnation (the eternal Word[Christ] was incarnate of the virgin Mary and became man]. Christ thus is the image of the invisible God and since Christ became incarnate and had a true human nature with His Divine Nature, sacred images and art and items in a Church thus are appropriate for the faithful to to visually connect to God in their prayer and Liturgical worship of Him.
So the Holy sacred art are tied to Christ who while taking on our human nature, save sin, are what it is rooted to.
So as my Priest said in his homily last night, the Incarnation of Christ where Christ humbled Himself and took on our human nature was to restore us (fallen do to original sin] back to our true nature, our state before God before the fall. So those Saints in Heaven are indeed “Holy” because of God’s grace and thus we honor them how God’s grace has perfected them and we have hope to, due to God’s Grace be among the Holy Saints in heaven as well.
A material item can be made Holy by the power of Christ, Christ himself while having a true human nature, and Divine Nature, was Holy.
Things like this are why the RCC is so full of sht it defies all reason.
Oh and you are welcome, my apologies for not having that in my previous post.
How about Peter, Paul and John? - Apostle Peter died about 30 years after Jesus and was considered the senior leader of the disciples. So I’d say he had first-hand knowledge of Jesus as described in 1 Peter 2:21-25. Peter knew Paul and spoke of him in his letters to the Colossians and Ephesians. The apostle John also knew Jesus and referenced Peter when writing to the Philippians. Peter was killed during the reign of Nero, approximately 65-67AD, meaning he and the other apostles were in contact with each other and were spreading the Gospel for decades in spoken and written word.
Heresies. Here are some big ones.
Pope is the vicar of Christ. No one can substitute for Christ
Mary was born w/o original sin. Only Christ was.
Pope is infallible on matters of faith. Pope is a man and fallible.
Purgatory is an invention of the 14th century.

“Sounds demonic.”
There’s a reason why most Christian theologians believe that the anti-Christ will “come out of Rome”.
[First off, name me one author of the New testament that knew Jesus, was there at the Crucifixion]
Apparently only the Apostle John was actually there at the Crucifixion (plus Mary if memory serves) - just those two
John of course, in the New Testament:
Gospel According to John
1 John
2 John
3 John
The Revelation or Apocalypse of Jesus Christ
(5 books total)
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