Growing indications that the Azerbaijan Airlines flight that crashed today was hit by air defense fire

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[janetjanet998]

Growing indications that the Azerbaijan Airlines flight that crashed this morning might have been brought down by some kind of AD fire

A Ukrainian drone attack on Grozny was ongoing

[janetjanet998]

Video showing holes on wing and plane
https://rumble.com/v62sfzt-growing-indications-that-the-azerbaijan-airlines-flight-was-hit-by-air-defe.html

[ABStrauss]

Luraine and Zalinsky deserve to lose this ridiculous war.

[canuck_conservative]

Reports say the plane was miles off course, and had problems with GPS-jamming

Who’s the World’s expert in GPS-jamming?

Russia.

[Jim W N]

“The fog of war.”

I think this war will end soon.

[janetjanet998]

The video taken by the survivor also shows that some of the masks had deployed, but not all, and there was damage to the interior plastic walls.

Passenger on Azerbaijan Airlines Flight 8243 sent a video to his wife just minutes before the crash.
https://rumble.com/v62qsfn-passenger-on-azerbaijan-airlines-flight-8243-sent-a-video-to-his-wife-just-.html

[janetjanet998]

Thread on X with all of the evidence

❗️/1. Russian air defense most likely caused the crash of an Embraer 190 passenger plane during UAV attack on Chechnya:

https://x.com/bayraktar_1love/status/1871935554612297779

[jerod]

So the Russian’s were shooting at drones and brought down a plane instead... No surprise to that.

[Lurker]

You mean the war that Putin started?

That war?

L

[9YearLurker]

Seems more like air offense dire.

[Carriage Hill]

Looks like a proximity-fused missile shrapnel hit. Whomever was sitting on the other side of the fuselage, got shredded.

[Paul R.]

Wow, seems like everyone’s IFF systems need further improvement...

Prayers for the innocents hurt or killed, and for their families.

[McGruff]

Once again why was a commercial airplane flying in an active combat area?

[pfflier]

Looks like a proximity-fused missile shrapnel hit.

Yes it does and during the walk around there is ample evidence that the shrapnel went through the aircraft. Some hole are exit holes. That would indicate a very close proximity hit.

Also the video appears to be of the tail area which could account for the steep descent and apparent lack of full flight control authority in the video.

[Justa]

The aircraft’s civilian IFF id should have prevented targeting. But since when does Russia respect civilian airlines? Never, they are not a civil society.

[Deaf Smith]

And why is the aircraft not broken up and blackened by the fireball from the crash?

[Justa]

“Once again why was a commercial airplane flying in an active combat area?”

Civilian aircraft flew in and out of Iraq’s airports throughout the Iraq war and occupation, then the civil war and ISIS attacks.

It is because Western air defense and C&C systems put in the extra time and money to program-in target discrimination to avoid collateral damage. Russians do not. Reason #4453 why countries avoid buying Russian crap.

[verum ago]

Looks like a proximity-fused missile shrapnel hit. Whomever was sitting on the other side of the fuselage, got shredded.

Birdstrike my @$$. Yeah, that thing's empennage got peppered pretty badly. I'm amazed anyone survived the crash, fiery and at an angle as it was. The pilots might have saved a lot of lives putting the thing down they way they did, even as they lost their own.

I think the fact that this aircraft has battle damage potentially casts its crossing of the Caspian sea in a different light: forget blaming GPS jamming. I'm guessing the pilots were simply trying to get their aircraft and passengers as far and as quickly away from whomever was shooting at them as possible. A quick look at a map and I'm inclined to agree with what they did- north is more Russia, west is also more Russia and approaching Turkey, who has their own strong air defenses that would surely be on a hair trigger on this night; south is Iran, who probably wouldn't be so neighborly themselves on an unplanned aerial arrival on a night with widespread drone raids.

That leaves east to Kazhakstan, which has the added bonus of getting the aircraft over the Caspian, which presumably doesn't have much in the way of air-defense armed ships on it. East was the direction they were least likely to get shot at again. So east they went. That they ended up in Aktau is no coincidence- as far as I can tell that's the nearest airport on that side of the Caspian. They made a bee-line for safety, and came excruciatingly close to making it. Damn.

[coloradan]

So we’re saying it was a spontaneous center wing tank explosion, then?

[verum ago]

So we’re saying it was a spontaneous center wing tank explosion, then?

It appears for the moment that the official Russian equivalent is 'likely birdstrike'.

(Perhaps 'bird' is a cognate in Russian for 'shrapnel'?)