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The Porsche Design Tower In Miami Is Sinking
Motor1 ^ | 16 Dec 2024 | Jeff Perez

Posted on 12/17/2024 11:29:04 AM PST by DUMBGRUNT

Opened in 2014, the Porsche Design Tower was the first automaker-branded residence in the city—and one of the first buildings anywhere in the world with a car elevator. It has since spawned competitors like the 818-foot Aston Martin skyscraper just down the road, with other automaker residences soon to pop up from brands like Bentley, Mercedes-Benz, and even Pagani.

But now, some of those companies may want to give their skyscrapers a second thought.

(Excerpt) Read more at motor1.com ...


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To: freepersup
I worked on one of two crews installing 4,200 anchor bolts in caissons during the construction of a Mitsubishi automotive assembly plant, situated in the Bloomington - Normal area of Illinois.

I had a tour of the plant some 20+ years ago. The place is huge. When the plant was being built it had to take a long time to grade the layout before they even put in the steel work. I live near a school that converted a baseball field to a football/track field. It probably took 4 months if not more to level out the field before even getting started on putting in the football field, stands and dressing rooms.

61 posted on 12/17/2024 3:04:20 PM PST by EVO X ( )
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To: packagingguy

google AI is wrong more often than right and absolutely can not be uncritically relied upon as a sole source ...

google AI simply search a shitepile of online material to come up with “answers”, but has little capability of judging the relatively veracity of the large volume of information that it sucks up ...

anyone who’s ever been to the beach in the miami area and has dug a hole in the sand knows that there’s no bedrock at 3-4 feet ... in other words, a 3rd grader is smarter than google AI ...

in fact, bedrock is SUBSTANTIALLY deeper than 3-4 feet in most areas of the U.S. except in places like the ROCKY mountains ... again, the average ditch digger knows this ...

in point of fact, in coastal areas like miami, it’s impossible to put down pilings deep enough to actually hit bedrock, and all buildings and structures are held up by driving in a gazillion pilings deep enough that the friction of the soil/sand surrounding those pilings hold the building and bridges and such up ...


62 posted on 12/17/2024 3:08:58 PM PST by catnipman ((A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil))
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To: EVO X

Small world!

I think it’s now a Rivian truck plant. Yep. Just checked.

https://stories.rivian.com/vehicle-plant-tour-normal-illinois


63 posted on 12/17/2024 3:09:14 PM PST by freepersup (“Those who conceal crimes are preparing to commit new ones.” ~Vuk Draskovic~)
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To: PGR88

“Can’t imagine how deep one needs to go with a foundation to find something solid to build a skyscraper upon.”

you can’t ... which is why buildings and structures in such coastal areas are held up by driving in enough pilings deep enough that the friction of the soil/sand surrounding those pilings is what actually holds those structures from sinking ...


64 posted on 12/17/2024 3:10:37 PM PST by catnipman ((A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil))
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To: catnipman

I’ve never been to Miami, but a guy who’s studying civil engineering at Ole Miss told me in the Destin area you have to have supports over 100 feet deep or more. It’s been a while since he told me so it could even been more than that.


65 posted on 12/17/2024 3:20:59 PM PST by packagingguy
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To: freepersup

During their peak performance, Mitsubishi was cranking out ~300K cars a year. Their products got stale as well as the state and local tax cuts when they shut the plant down


66 posted on 12/17/2024 3:21:39 PM PST by EVO X ( )
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To: Leaning Right

“Could be that the tower is not sinking, but the ground is rising.
🤔”

Could be that the tower is shrinking from top to bottom. Too many rain/dry cycles?


67 posted on 12/17/2024 3:31:13 PM PST by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: catnipman

“google AI simply search a shitepile of online material to come up with “answers”, but has little capability of judging the relatively veracity of the large volume of information that it sucks up ...”

Untrue. Yes, LLMs can hallucinate and display bias but their reasoning capabilities are starting to surpass very bright humans now and sometimes superior to the best logicians in the world. This is all being closely tracked on the way to AGI.


68 posted on 12/17/2024 3:37:33 PM PST by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: catnipman

Manually searching and looking through references I see various estimates from 3 to 30 feet to limestone bedrock, with most areas being to the lower end of that. No need to rely on soil friction.


69 posted on 12/17/2024 3:47:32 PM PST by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Perhaps the German Coast Guard can help. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7C-vYY3SBDE&t=3s


70 posted on 12/17/2024 4:25:59 PM PST by Colorado Doug (Now I know how the Indians felt to be sold out for a few beads and trinkets)
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