Posted on 12/06/2024 8:27:49 AM PST by V_TWIN
The Manhattan jury deliberating Daniel Penny’s case in the chokehold death of Jordan Neely on a New York City subway last year is deadlocked on the manslaughter charge, according to a note the panel sent to the court Friday. The 12-person jury sent the note marking its impasse after 16 hours of deliberating since they got the case Tuesday afternoon. The judge and the parties are conferring over how to respond.
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The prosecutor continually referred to Penney as “the white man” and the criminal as “the black man”, never used their names.
I presume that’s grounds for an appeal.
TOTALLY typical of blue city juries.
I was living on the California Central Coast during the Michael Jackson trial. One woman on the jury tried to get interviews and book deals, nada. LOL.
“The prosecutor continually referred to Penney as “the white man” and the criminal as “the black man”, never used their names.”
That tells me there’s at least 2 blacks on the jury that the prosecution is trying to provoke to vote guilty.....also, damned dispicable if you ask me.
Then you can expect a retrial.
Attorneys should never be allowed on a jury.
In the initial trials, there were only two whites in the Nevers jury and only one white person in the Budzyn jury. They were doomed from the start.
Both juries reached unanimous verdicts. However, the convictions were overturned by appellate courts because the juries were influenced by outside sources. Race was a significant factor in the trials, as both officers were white and the judge, juries, and prosecutors were Black
“Attorneys should never be allowed on a jury”
Agreed.....I don’t consider ANY lawyer my “peer”.....they’re right down there with car salesman and the liberal media.
This is how it works in my state:
“After the questions are done (Voir dire) the group of prospective jurors is asked to leave the room and the lawyers decide who will be on the jury.”
https://www.smithandeulo.com/jury-selection-in-florida/
There’s absolutely no reason for any sane person to go near that hell-hole of a city.
And they also watched X in the jury room during breaks.
The movie featured the Rodney King incident.
And the communist mayor called them murderers before the trial even began.
I just saw an attorney on TV say the manslaughter charge is actually the more serious of the two. To prove it, prosecutors have to prove Penny acted recklessly, that he recognized the harm he could cause.
To prove the homicide charge, they only have prove he was negligent.
“In a typical courtroom, the Judge will order from between 20 to 50 potential jurors to sit in the audience and go through the voir dire process. ...After the questions are done, the group of prospective jurors is asked to leave the room and the lawyers decide who will be on the jury. Each lawyer gets a number of peremptory strikes.
The lawyers are allowed to strike as many jury members as they can if they qualify as a “for cause” strike. A “for cause” challenge is where the jury member simply can’t sit on the jury and promise to be fair (i.e. biased, or can’t concentrate, medical problems, doesn’t understand the language, etc.).”
So if 45 out of 50 are hardcore liberal democrats, who swear they can be unbiased, you’ll get 5 reasonable people and the least bad of 7 votes to convict.
Yes, that is correct. You get a number of peremptory challenges (you don’t have to give a reason), otherwise you have to come up with some reason for the court to consider about why a potential juror would be unable to discharge their duty to be impartial. Courts generally have a pretty high bar for that.
Penny should have never been charged, and this is a clearly political case. Brag knew that a NYC jury would be predisposed to punish the “white man” (his prosecutor has used that language in this trial) who had the temerity to protect himself and the other passengers from a violent lunatic.
Only pressing the point on jury selection because it’s a critical element in these self defense cases. It’s probably the case that the best possible outcome that he can hope for is a hung jury. Though Brag will probably re-file.
It’s just not safe in the blue cities.
How is this even on trial?
New York City people have to rival the dumbest on Earth.
No need to insult creepy car salesman...
Comparing them to the media is kind of low.
I think this demonstrates the incredible bravery of the Rittenhouse jury.
“Change of venue is in order.”
Thank you, excellent point!
Sorry to spam, but I just saw this request from the jury: “We’d like to better understand the term ‘reasonable person.’ Can the judge elaborate?”
Oh man...THAT IS WHAT THE JURY HAS BEEN TASKED TO ANSWER. That’s the question: were Penny’s actions REASONABLE under the totality of the circumstances known to him at the time? If his actions were REASONABLE, then he by definition did not exhibit reckless disregard required for the manslaughter charge.
The instinct these people have to defer to the state power is chilling.
You cannot trust a blue city jury.
Seems simple: Do you know any reasonable people? Are YOU one? If so, would you - if your body & training allowed - seriously consider reacting the way Daniel Penny did? Do you want other people with his ability to take action like that, if you were there?
Or do you think he was on a psychotic ego trip? Or that he just wants to bring back slavery?
Would you be ashamed or proud to have a friend like him?
But I’m betting that is NOT how a NYC judge will phrase the answer...;>(
“You cannot trust a blue city jury”
I hear ya....I’ve been saying from the beginning the city this happened in is most unfortunate.
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