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Crash Retrievals, Reverse Engineering, and the Cost of Secrecy: The UAP Debate Unfolds.
Townhall ^ | John Nantz

Posted on 12/04/2024 11:24:28 AM PST by RoosterRedux

November marked another round of historic House and Senate hearings on Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP).

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Of particular note are FBI Director nominee Kash Patel’s statements regarding declassifying FBI materials related to the Epstein investigation, and UAP investigations. During a recent interview, Rep. Nancy Mace said she’s “seen memos between the FBI and the U.S. Army saying we’ll help you with this crash retrieval program, but you have to give us access to the crashed craft.” It’s an admission the FBI has been engaged in ongoing investigations into UAP, and the crash retrieval programs responsible for recovery and exploitation.

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Of the many points Rep. Mace made during the hearing, perhaps the most incisive was in regard to the government making disability payments to individuals who’ve suffered demonstrable harm from their work on or around recovered UAP. Her statement related directly to questioning by Rep. Jared Moskowitz (D-FL) who cleverly observed, “Well you can’t talk about fight club if there’s no fight club.” Moskowitz’s point was if the DOD required Mr. Elizondo to sign non-disclosure agreements about crash retrieval programs, then that tacitly acknowledges the existence of crash retrieval programs.

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Mace cited the mistreatment of David Grusch last summer, “If he was not a credible witness, why violate HIPAA and his medical privacy to attack his credibility…it’s the deep state going after someone they say isn’t credible…it doesn’t add up.”

We know from unimpeachable sources that UAP are real, and we are in possession of technology not of human origin.

(Excerpt) Read more at townhall.com ...


TOPICS: UFO's
KEYWORDS: dod; fringe; ohsomysteriouso; patel; ufo; ufos; upa
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1 posted on 12/04/2024 11:24:28 AM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

Check out the proposed new NASA head:

https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/4282477/posts

We may have found some craft and maybe even bodies.

:-)


2 posted on 12/04/2024 11:26:03 AM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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To: cgbg; spirited irish

Check out this video of orbs captured by a backyard security camera.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QfrsNfM3ISA


3 posted on 12/04/2024 11:27:56 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Emerson (paraphrased): "If you strike at the king, don't fail." The Democrats failed. )
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To: RoosterRedux

I am very skeptical of any “modern” stuff—the tech to fake stuff is way too sophisticated.

That is why I focus on legacy programs and issues.


4 posted on 12/04/2024 11:31:25 AM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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To: cgbg

Very true. You can never be sure if what you’re seeing is genuine or AI-generated clickbait. That said, that video was interesting.


5 posted on 12/04/2024 11:34:30 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Emerson (paraphrased): "If you strike at the king, don't fail." The Democrats failed. )
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To: Openurmind; Churchjack; eastforker; Levy78; maddog55; Jonty30; GingisK; Mark17; spirited irish; ...

Ping


6 posted on 12/04/2024 11:50:08 AM PST by RoosterRedux (Emerson (paraphrased): "If you strike at the king, don't fail." The Democrats failed. )
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To: RoosterRedux

If they crashed, they obviously didn’t work................


7 posted on 12/04/2024 11:56:44 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegals are put up in 5 Star hotels....................)
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To: RoosterRedux

There is no such thing as a “UAP”, they are all UFOs. The term “UAP” is a diversionary term created by the government to distract from all previous UFO incidents. In essence, rewriting history. Just part of the coverup!


8 posted on 12/04/2024 12:02:24 PM PST by Highest Authority (DemonRats are pure EVIL)
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To: RoosterRedux

So far as I could see, the so-called orbs did not cast any shadows. This implies that the orbs, whatever they are, do not represent actual physical phenomena, but are in part generated by the monitoring camera or by post processing (deliberate or accidental). Perhaps someone else out there can explain how the orbs can be real and yet not cast any shadows.


9 posted on 12/04/2024 12:03:34 PM PST by SteveH
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To: RoosterRedux
Of particular note are FBI Director nominee Kash Patel’s statements regarding declassifying FBI materials related to the Epstein investigation, and UAP investigations. During a recent interview, Rep. Nancy Mace said she’s “seen memos between the FBI and the U.S. Army saying we’ll help you with this crash retrieval program, but you have to give us access to the crashed craft.”

I'm sure the Chinese and Russians know - and the 'elties' of corrupt European countries In short only the little people aren't in on what's happening. Throw the doors open to the truth.. and support Kash Patel... it's time for everyone to get real.

10 posted on 12/04/2024 12:21:58 PM PST by GOPJ (Shoud a 30 year old man who self identifies as being ten be allowed to play little league baseball?)
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To: SteveH
Perhaps someone else out there can explain how the orbs can be real and yet not cast any shadows

"The Woo" (the crossover of UFOs with the supernatural or spiritual). Some people extend 'The Woo' to suggest that so-called aliens might align with historical concepts of demons or fallen angels, or perhaps are fabrications created by such beings.

Others propose that UFOs could be interdimensional projections—holographic-like but with some physicality.

In the end, who knows?

11 posted on 12/04/2024 1:02:01 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Emerson (paraphrased): "If you strike at the king, don't fail." The Democrats failed. )
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To: GOPJ
I'm sure the Chinese and Russians know - and the 'elties' of corrupt European countries In short only the little people aren't in on what's happening.

Maybe the truth is so horrifying that no government, not even are enemies, want to spill the beans.

Remember he anecdote about Jimmy Cater breaking down in tears after insisting on seeing the UFO files?

12 posted on 12/04/2024 1:33:37 PM PST by Sirius Lee (Hi! Follow me on FReep Tok #Neanderthal #oMtBikes #Bach)
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To: RoosterRedux

You know, if you identify a UFO as a UFO it’s now just an FO. Unless it lands, in which case it’s now just an O.


13 posted on 12/04/2024 2:27:00 PM PST by FrankRizzo890
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To: RoosterRedux

or also, internal lens reflections

although admittedly much less spiritual


14 posted on 12/04/2024 2:38:19 PM PST by SteveH
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To: SteveH

Or it could be faked or AI.


15 posted on 12/04/2024 2:46:35 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Emerson (paraphrased): "If you strike at the king, don't fail." The Democrats failed. )
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To: RoosterRedux

I’ve always found this topic interesting, but I watch from a friendly skeptics perspective. What would those orbs, whether alien or spiritual, gain from the random flight patterns around someone’s back door on multiple days. I suspect some specific insects might mess with the ir sensor, or it’s a sensor bug.


16 posted on 12/04/2024 3:32:13 PM PST by catbertz
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To: Sirius Lee

I remember the Jimmy Carter story.

Over the years there have been a bunch of whistleblowers claiming to have spoken with aliens while working for the military, CIA, NSA etc.

A lot of the stuff they had to say would make any President cry—if true.

(Example: Claims we are an outpost of the Reptilian multi-galactic empire and we are just cattle to them.)


17 posted on 12/04/2024 3:37:52 PM PST by cgbg (It is time to pull the Deep State out of the mass media--like ticks from a dog.)
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To: RoosterRedux

God or Aliens? Neither seen, more evidence of the former, more belief in the latter.

Funny.


18 posted on 12/04/2024 4:02:33 PM PST by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
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To: catbertz
They are building a religion
19 posted on 12/04/2024 4:05:14 PM PST by RoosterRedux (Emerson (paraphrased): "If you strike at the king, don't fail." The Democrats failed. )
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To: Red Badger

We’ve crashed shxt on other planets .. quite a few times on Mars but we have a rover and helicopter flying on Mars.


20 posted on 12/04/2024 4:18:36 PM PST by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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