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To: metmom

The differences between Catholics and Orthodox are actually quite limited, although important. But I never claimed the individual could rely on Scripture alone. Both Catholics and Orthodox believe that we need the Church. We just have different definitions of that church.

As for Protestants, that are serious differences between Luther and Calvin. For one thing, is baptism a sacrament that is necessary for salvation? No small question. There is also the problem that the vast majority of Christians, including Catholics and Orthodox, read the Scriptures differently than the Protestants. The Bible alone is not a sure source of understanding.


174 posted on 12/03/2024 4:49:09 PM PST by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius

A cursory reading of the difference between the Roman rite and the Orthodox shows otherwise.

https://christianityfaq.com/roman-catholicism-eastern-orthodoxy-comparison/

One of the major ones is the rejection of the papacy by the Orthodox, which according to Catholic doctrine, means they are not saved.

Unam Sanctum, an infallible pronouncement by Pope demands subjection to the Roman Pontiff as a requirement for salvation.

Unam Sanctam
One God, One Faith, One Spiritual Authority
Pope Boniface VIII - 1302

https://www.papalencyclicals.net/bon08/b8unam.htm

Quote: “ Furthermore, we declare, we proclaim, we define that it is absolutely necessary for salvation that every human creature be subject to the Roman Pontiff.”

Which, BTW is another point where Roman Catholic doctrine veers from Scriptural teaching. NOWHERE in Scripture are people commanded to submit to either Peter or the church at Rome.


177 posted on 12/03/2024 5:52:01 PM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus)
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To: Petrosius
The Bible alone is not a sure source of understanding.

Well said, Lightbringer, well said!


Almost as good as...

Aof #8


We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.

206 posted on 12/04/2024 5:18:18 AM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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