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To: metmom

If you can answer it then please do. Either the Church is infallible in both determining the canon of Bible and in preaching the faith, or it is not infallible in either. You cannot claim that the Church is infallible in determining what is Scripture but not in teaching the faith. The former is only a subset of the latter.


104 posted on 12/03/2024 6:23:36 AM PST by Petrosius
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To: Petrosius; boatbums

No one church’s stamp of approval on the Bible validates it as Scripture. Scripture stands on it’s own and doesn’t need man to approve or disprove it. Nor does Catholicism own Scripture that it can control it and decide what it is and isn’t.

The OT is recognized as Scripture based on Jesus’ validation of it. HE referenced the Law and the prophets and called them Scripture well before Catholicism came into being.

Peter recognized Paul’s writings as Scripture long before Catholicism existed.

I honestly am not sure about how the other books, not authored by Paul have been determined, but considering how wrong Catholicism is on so many subjects, I wouldn’t depend on them for verification of anything. Especially in light of the fact that some of what the church has decided is canon has historical errors in them. That immediately calls into question the reliability of Catholic church verification.

Pinging boatbums as she is much more familiar with the subject than I am.


108 posted on 12/03/2024 7:38:08 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus)
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To: Petrosius

No church is infallible in ANYTHING.

And Catholicism claiming it to be so does not make it so.

Only God is infallible.


111 posted on 12/03/2024 7:45:44 AM PST by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus)
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To: Petrosius
You cannot claim that the Church is infallible in determining what is Scripture but not in teaching the faith.

How about PRACTICING the faith?

Surely that must come into the equation somewhere!

126 posted on 12/03/2024 12:10:41 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Petrosius
You cannot claim that the Church is infallible in determining what is Scripture but not in teaching the faith.

How about PRACTICING the faith?

Surely a church that is INFALLIBLE should be able to get it's members to actually DO what the Church teaches - right?


Why call me LORD, Lord if...

You get the idea.

127 posted on 12/03/2024 12:12:35 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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