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For 30 years I've been hearing conservative gloat that "Hollyweird is dying." and that nobody wants to see their product.

For 30 years, I've replied that Hollywood and Big Media will do just fine. They always have. Shows get canceled. Films fail at the box office. It's just part of the normal process.

For 30 years I've said that conservatives need to enter the arts and create counter programming. Instead of sitting on the sidelines, waiting and waiting and waiting for Hollywood to go bankrupt and die.

1 posted on 12/01/2024 10:56:30 PM PST by Angelino97
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And you were right.


2 posted on 12/01/2024 10:59:06 PM PST by mairdie (GreenwichVillage ArmyPoet: https://www.iment.com/maida/family/father/oldsoldiersdrums/frontcover.htm)
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Hmm. The goal shouldn’t be to make “counter” stuff but to make excellent stuff period. And not shy away from the system altogether — yet take advantage of more independent outlets and trends like the fact that so many things are being shot outside L.A. now.

I *rarely* go to the movies but did see both Wicked and Gladiator 2 without ever seeing the musical or Gladiator 1. Both were very cinematically engaging and wouldn’t have been the same on streaming, which I’ve never been big on even as a young millennial. I am happy theatrical releases are making a comeback.


3 posted on 12/01/2024 11:02:55 PM PST by CondoleezzaProtege
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Gladiator II was a lethargic movie to watch.

Don’t care if I ever see it again...


4 posted on 12/01/2024 11:47:06 PM PST by Vendome (I've Gotta Be Me https://youtu.be/wH-pk2vZG2M)
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The Trump effect knows no economic or entertainment boundaries?


5 posted on 12/01/2024 11:56:00 PM PST by SuperLuminal
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“Hollywood” as a viewing platform will die or shrivel up.. New viewing modalities will dominate the entertainment space.
Storytelling won’t die.
It behooves us to not enrich the movie makers which demean conservatives, Christians, and the denizens of “flyover” states. Conservatives need to start storytelling creatively using all viewing platforms.


6 posted on 12/02/2024 12:00:09 AM PST by Getready (Wisdom is more valuable than gold and harder to find.)
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It’s all reboots, reinterpretations, sequels and re-hashes, whether movies or TV shows. Hollywood’s not dying. It’s a zombie hungry for nourishment, and all it can do is eat the brains of original thought from established money makers. Even genuinely talented writers are recycling their old work. We’re on the third spinoff of Big Bang Theory, and Meet the Conners has gotten so bad, I can’t watch it anymore. What’s next? The Beverly Hillbillies in which the rotten son of Mr. Drysdale’s snobbish wife takes his pampered nuclear family into the hills of Arkansas, driven out by Newsome’s mis-rule?


8 posted on 12/02/2024 12:03:09 AM PST by Eleutheria5 (Every Goliath has his David. Child in need of a CGM system. https://gofund.me/6452dbf1. )
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"For 30 years I've said that conservatives need to enter the arts and create counter programming."

That will never happen. Creative people lean decidedly left. Yes, there are non-leftwingers (myself included) in the Arts but we're a small minority. I've been involved in the arts on several different fronts and was once married to a talented, working painter who had a broad professional circle, so I can confirm this with no doubts. Look up why Jordan Peterson says this is so.

The other reason is that "conservative" artists' work tends to be conventional, literal and not "edgy," so it doesn't get noticed like that of some idiot, for example, who drops a crucifix in a jar of piss.

A third reason is that conservatives generally don't support the work of non-leftist artists. Here's an example: I'm a musician who writes and produces his own music. My themes are anti-totalitarian, pro freedom and pro-traditional Western/Judeo-Christian values. For a few years I've posted links to my work here on FR. Now I realize that no matter what sort of art one kicks out only a small percentage of people will like it and even fewer will like it enough to buy it. My tunes cost around $1 to buy and a digital album goes for around $10. And though I've been posting links on FR to my work for the past several years I've sold a grand total of 4, $1 songs to Freepers.

Does my music suck? You be the judge.

A final reason for leftists dominating the Arts is because non-leftists and conservatives do financially support their work by buying movie tickets, music by leftwing idiots, Netflix subscriptions etc. - those proceeds ALL go to leftists, leftist politicians and leftwing causes.

Based on my long term experiences, non-leftists will never support a "conservative" Arts movement.

13 posted on 12/02/2024 12:44:43 AM PST by Rocco DiPippo (Either the Deep State destroys America or we destroy the Deep State. -Donald Trump)
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And I haven’t been to a theater to see a movie in 20+ years, never been to a Hollywood play of any kind, haven’t watched MSM since 2012 and seldom if ever watch ABC, CBS or NBC unless it’s sports.

Personal choice.


15 posted on 12/02/2024 2:30:50 AM PST by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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the top three movies. Moana 2 pulled in 17.4M admissions, Wicked 8.7M people while Gladiator II

Since Wicked is a derivative of another story, nothing original in this list. Seeks the theater crowd is the place for repeats and sequels. Does that mean the B Movie equivalents are going to streaming?

Can't wait to see the box office numbers for the Snow White remake. That should be out soon enough.

16 posted on 12/02/2024 2:54:15 AM PST by Bernard ("Liberal Intellectual Incest". Goes along with employment in the Poverty-Industrial Complex.)
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a plan I’ve had for years if ever I hit the numbers...
until then?... all I can offer is changing stick figures on a sticky note pad!!


17 posted on 12/02/2024 3:03:21 AM PST by sit-rep
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Well, they’ll be doing it without my money thsts for sure.......you couldn’t pay ME to sit in a theater.


19 posted on 12/02/2024 3:33:45 AM PST by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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Inflated prices to match Hollywood inflated egos.


21 posted on 12/02/2024 4:01:20 AM PST by plangent
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FWIW, I don’t believe Hollyweird’s numbers any more than I believe Deep State’s.


24 posted on 12/02/2024 4:22:59 AM PST by mewzilla (Swing away, Mr. President, swing away!)
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I noticed DirecTV sh putting on some of their older movies this holiday. HBO, Showtime, STARZ. Worth watching for a few days.
TCM also putting on some good old Oldies- AGAIN!
Haven’t been to a theater since 2010 to see True Grit.


33 posted on 12/02/2024 5:57:06 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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I stayed home and watched “Reagan”, it was enjoyable.


35 posted on 12/02/2024 6:10:47 AM PST by 1Old Pro
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I don’t follow “Hollywood” earnings, but their pattern seems to be: failure, failure, failure, failure, failure, huge success, failure, failure, failure.


39 posted on 12/02/2024 6:35:51 AM PST by PGR88
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Yeah the death of Hollywood is always over reported. And counter programming can be quite successful. Angel Studios is making a lot of money, and even some good movies.


41 posted on 12/02/2024 6:44:02 AM PST by discostu (like a dog being shown a card trick)
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It is dying when the only movies making money are remakes of old movies and sequels. Fresh new ideas are not the mainstay of a woke industry that prides itself in not offending anybody.

To wit:
Moana 2
Gladiator II
Wicked (Wizard of Oz)

When everything costs 20-40% more, of course box office takes will be more.

EC


44 posted on 12/02/2024 7:04:21 AM PST by Ex-Con777
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The top three movies are sequels or re-hashed do overs. Not one original idea in Hollywood. Pitiful. Even more pitiful are those who line up and pay for this dreck.


46 posted on 12/02/2024 7:29:16 AM PST by bk1000 (Banned from Breitbart)
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Is that “unprecedented $420M” adjusted for inflation?


48 posted on 12/02/2024 7:50:49 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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