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If Trump Wins, He Should Arrest And Prosecute Jimmy Kimmel
kimmel, thefederalist, ^ | 11/1/2024 | John Daniel Davidson

Posted on 11/01/2024 10:39:24 AM PDT by Signalman

The law is the law, and Jimmy Kimmel broke it. Or at least, he broke the law as it has been outrageously interpreted according to President Joe Biden’s Justice Department, which prosecuted and jailed Douglass Mackey for making an almost identical joke to the one Kimmel made on Wednesday night.

During his monologue, Kimmel said, “If you want to vote for Trump, vote late. Vote very late. Do your voting on Thursday or maybe Friday.”

Get it? He’s joking about how he hopes Trump voters don’t vote in time. But is it a harmless joke or a case of “election disinformation” that violates federal law and carries serious jailtime?

Depends on who you are and which party you support. For Mackey, the man behind the erstwhile Twitter persona Ricky Vaughn, precisely this kind of joke was a crime for which he served seven months in federal prison.

What exactly did Mackey do? He posted joke memes on Twitter ahead of the 2016 election about how Hillary Clinton supporters should text in their vote for Hillary, or vote by posting the word “Hillary” on Facebook and Twitter next to the hashtag #PresidentialElection.

The memes, which you can see for yourself, are obviously jokes. A bit on the nose, maybe, but jokes nonetheless. Indeed, federal prosecutors were unable to find a single person who was deceived by them. It didn’t matter. The deep state came after Mackey, subpoenaed his financial records, pay stubs, email accounts, everything. In the end, they tried him in the Eastern District of New York, and a Brooklyn jury pool that voted four to one for Biden convicted him of “conspiracy against rights” in violation of a Reconstruction Era law meant to counter the Ku Klux Klan’s violent voter suppression tactics.

It was an outlandish reading of the federal statue, the true purpose of which was to create a precedent for its application against Trump himself in the January 6 case brought last year by special counsel Jack Smith. It was also a prosecution obviously motivated by politics. The Justice Department didn’t go after Mackey until two days after the inauguration of Joe Biden in January 2021, more than four years after he posted the offending memes.

The danger with this sort of thing is that once you criminalize internet memes, you can criminalize almost any speech the state wants to suppress. As Jonathan Keeperman wrote in these pages last year (then under the pseudonym Lomez), “The precedent set in the Mackey case eschews any limiting principle on how the law can be applied. Any ‘disinformation’ — that is, any untrue statement, even crude jokes, like jesting that Michelle Obama is a man, or that [insert politician] is really an alien lizard in a human skinsuit — so long as it might deter someone from voting, is a potential crime.”

Which brings us to the Kimmel joke. Conservatives of an earlier era would have balked at the idea that we should apply to Kimmel the standard that Democrats applied to Mackey. But those conservatives were wrong (not least because their brand of conservatism didn’t conserve anything). They thought you could win by pretending to be above the fray, by sticking to principles of neutrality and fair play. What they didn’t realize is that there was never any neutral ground to begin with, that the left has no principles and was never going to restrain itself once in power. Most of us on the right have figured that out by now, and we are adjusting accordingly.

What that adjustment entails, among other things, is this: the only way to fight the left and win is to make them feel the consequences of their own horrible standards and policies. So although in principle I’m opposed to jailing people based on contorted readings of federal statues, in practice that’s what’s actually happening, but only to one side.

Therefore if the Justice Department under Biden is going to prosecute internet meme-makers on the right for joking about Clinton, the Justice Department under Trump should do the same to jokesters on the left. I say this because the left isn’t just going to stop. They must be stopped. How do we do that? We persuade them that they really don’t want to live in a country where who goes to jail is determined by who wins the next election. And the best way to convince them is to do to them as they have done to the rest of us. I’m afraid that means Jimmy Kimmel must go to jail.

It should never have gotten to this point, but it has, and we have to be honest about that. Examples are legion, but one stands out vis-à-vis Kimmel’s little joke. Recall that seven members of a film crew for another late night host, Stephen Colbert, were arrested in June 2022 while filming a comedy segment at the U.S. Capitol. Police said they “observed seven individuals, unescorted and without Congressional ID, in a sixth-floor hallway” in the Longworth House Office Building on Capitol Hill in Washington. They were arrested and charged with unlawful entry in what was described at the time as “an active criminal investigation” that “may result in additional criminal charges after consultation with the U.S. Attorney.”

But Biden’s Justice Department would later drop the charges against the film crew. As many commentators on the right noted at the time, the Colbert crew was treated much differently than peaceful Jan. 6 protesters, many of whom were sent to prison for far less.

The blunt truth is the Democrats have no qualms about sending their political opponents to prison. Just this week, Steve Bannon was released from federal prison, having been convicted on bogus charges of defying a subpoena from the improperly constituted Jan. 6 Committee, which should never have had subpoena power to begin with. Never mind that the Obama administration defied properly authorized congressional subpoenas on many occasions, most infamously when then-Attorney General Eric Holder refused to comply with an investigation into the Obama DOJ’s botched Operation Fast and Furious.

And of course the ongoing lawfare against former President Donald Trump is a case study in novel, sometimes nonsensical, applications of the law to carry out politically-motivated prosecutions.

One could fill a book with more examples, but all of them illustrate what should by now be obvious: Democrats have one set of rules for themselves and another set for their political opponents. Until Republicans start jailing Democrats and giving a taste of their own medicine, this lawlessness and anarchy will continue. And make no mistake, if Harris and the Democrats win it will get much worse.


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KEYWORDS: doj; douglassmackey; jimmykimmel; kimmel; the; trump; weaponizeddoj
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To: hsrazorback1

Very.


21 posted on 11/01/2024 11:57:12 AM PDT by No name given ( Anonymous is who you’ll know me as )
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To: No name given

That would sober up the rest of the POS partisan media shills (PMS, or in this case, POSPMS).


22 posted on 11/01/2024 11:58:31 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Putin should skip ahead to where he kills himself in the bunker.)
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To: Signalman
The deep state came after Mackey, subpoenaed his financial records, pay stubs, email accounts, everything. In the end, they tried him in the Eastern District of New York, and a Brooklyn jury pool that voted four to one for Biden convicted him of “conspiracy against rights” in violation of a Reconstruction Era law meant to counter the Ku Klux Klan’s violent voter suppression tactics.

Jury needs to go to prison. Way past time we started putting Juries and Judges and Prosecutors in prison for abuse of authority.

23 posted on 11/01/2024 12:13:36 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: nwrep
Let’s tone down the hyperbole and take down the temperature. It has been crazy enough.

We can do that after we've put the abusive prosecution shoe on their foot and made them wear it for four years like we have had to do.

24 posted on 11/01/2024 12:14:29 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Zathras
There are plenty of others WAY more important than him. Who setup the fake dossier and which GOP members were complicit in it. Crazy Liz, Romney, Linda, McConnell.

I absolutely want to see thousands of deep state agents sent to prison for their behavior and activities for the last 8 years.

Peter Stzrok comes to mind. The Vindmans need to go to prison. General Milley needs to be busted to private and sent to prison for the rest of his life.

There are a h3ll of a lot of people who very badly need to be punished for their criminal activity.

They need to be on the receiving end of an abusive Federal government prosecuting "lawbreakers", with very colorful interpretations of the "law" that they broke.

25 posted on 11/01/2024 12:17:18 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
This is kind of dishonest. I don’t believe Mackey should have been arrested for what he did. However, while it was very clear that Kimmel was joking, it was not clear at all that Mackey was joking. From everything I’ve seen and read, he was very serious about trying to convince some voters not to go to the polls by misrepresenting how to vote. Kimmel, massive douchenozzle that he is, wasn’t.

Let's say that he was serious. Should he go to prison because *IDIOTS* who shouldn't be allowed to vote at all, fell for his trick?

The Democrats don't care about election integrity or protecting elections. This is just about their power base punishing one of our people, and nothing else.

26 posted on 11/01/2024 12:20:16 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Signalman

Why bother? He’s meaningless.


27 posted on 11/01/2024 12:21:52 PM PDT by Scott from the Left Coast
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To: Yo-Yo
Douglass Mackey did make his meme look like it was from the HRC campaign.

So? Anyone dumb enough to fall for it shouldn't be voting anyways.

Seriously, the nation ran a lot better when you had to be over 21, and had to pay taxes to vote.

28 posted on 11/01/2024 12:22:15 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Signalman

Since most judicial decisions these days are made based upon precedent instead of a impartial assessment of the facts in a case, Kimmel is indeed fair game for prosecution. After all the precedent has been set complete with sentencing.

So Jimmy, does orange look good on you .. ?


29 posted on 11/01/2024 12:36:56 PM PDT by ByteMercenary (Cho Bi Dung and KamalHo are not my leaders.)
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To: Signalman

How about treason first, heads will roll.

then felonies...

Don’t know if stupid comedians should be targeted at all!


30 posted on 11/01/2024 1:04:49 PM PDT by BrandtMichaels ( 1st Peter 4:8 "Above all, love each other deeply because love covers a multitude of sins." )
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To: Signalman

Nah, he should send an EMP gift package to Terhan telling them to keep their assassins to their selves.


31 posted on 11/01/2024 1:10:04 PM PDT by antidemoncrat
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To: Signalman

The DOJ employees gave donations in 2016 to Clinton at a 97% rate. They won’t follow orders from a Trump administration and prosecute their fellow communists.
The best we can hope for is for Trump to destabilize and destroy the DOJ. They are a domestic enemy and do little to benefit the American people.
Trump can fire the political employees and try to replace them with patriots that respect the constitution. But most have civil service protections and are committed leftists. Best thing to do is make things uncomfortable for them so that they leave. Sure, the media will howl and lament their leaving. But the country would simple be better off when they’re gone.


32 posted on 11/01/2024 1:21:31 PM PDT by grumpygresh ( Civil disobedience by non-compliance; jury and state nullification.)
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To: DiogenesLamp
Let's say that he was serious. Should he go to prison because *IDIOTS* who shouldn't be allowed to vote at all, fell for his trick?

Well, as I explicitly said in the post to which you responded:

I don’t believe Mackey should have been arrested for what he did.

So obviously, the answer to your question is "no."

33 posted on 11/01/2024 1:22:23 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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To: DiogenesLamp
So? Anyone dumb enough to fall for it shouldn't be voting anyways.

That's the defense scammers make when they cheat old people out of their money.

A lot of older people aren't tech-savvy, and when they get something on their phone from Hillary's campaign telling them they can vote for her by text, some are going to fall for it.

It was a crappy thing for him to do.

34 posted on 11/01/2024 1:27:35 PM PDT by Bruce Campbells Chin ( )
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To: Signalman

If we had an actual DOJ now, Kimmel could be dealt with now instead of waiting for Trump.


35 posted on 11/01/2024 1:28:53 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (I'm voting for the felon with the pierced ear.)
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To: Bruce Campbells Chin
That's the defense scammers make when they cheat old people out of their money.

Which is, and should be, a crime.

Tricking idiots out of voting is a public service.

Their stupid decisions have a potential to hurt everyone else, and not just themselves.

36 posted on 11/01/2024 3:14:46 PM PDT by DiogenesLamp ("of parents owing allegiance to no other sovereignty.")
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To: Signalman

Just turn Hollywood into nuke testing grounds.


37 posted on 11/01/2024 3:27:48 PM PDT by Bulwyf
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To: nwrep

No.


38 posted on 11/01/2024 5:51:33 PM PDT by MuttTheHoople ( "Never thot I'd live to see the day when the right wing would become the cool ones"-Johnny Rotten)
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To: hsrazorback1

Not fighting back does not make you “better”, it makes you WEAK.


39 posted on 11/02/2024 10:40:00 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (A Psalm in napalm...)
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