Posted on 10/24/2024 5:41:01 AM PDT by Red Badger
Ping!...................
A 9-minute charge time to reach 80% capacity on a 600 mile range battery?
I’ll believe it when I see it.
“A 9-minute charge time to reach 80% capacity on a 600 mile range battery?
I’ll believe it when I see it.”
That caught my eye also.
It appears that our daily dose of climate fear porn is now twinned by a daily dose of super battery hope porn. ‘Twould be great. However, if we ever get some inexpensive, reliable high capacity batteries, but we still have an inadequate grid and increasingly unreliable generating capacity.
When can I get a small one to eliminate the “ceiling chirp”?
That would be awesome, though, provided that the electricity is provided by nuclear power!
estimates, predictions, models, projections. In other words: vaporware.
This battery “announcement” is for a battery that doesn’t even exist. Because if it was a real battery, they would have real data on it. They would have real examples of recharge times from real battery chargers, hot and cold degradation, number of recharge cycles and the degradation curve. But they don’t.
I put this in the monthly battery breakthrough folder. Battery technology breakthroughs are announced nearly every month, except the don’t happen.
Even at 9 minutes, it’s gonna be too long in many places where lines will be very long waiting to r3charge- people get pissed off over taking 5 minutes to top off a tank of gas ⛽️ and lines are already long at regular gas stations- adding to the time will just cause all kings of anger it seems. Yeah, 9 minutes is better than 1/2 to recharge, but tempers are gonna flare terribly
Also, is that 600 miles WITHOUT running anything like air conditioner or heater? Gets mighty hot in places, and freezing cold in other places.
Perhaps as along as you have an 800 kV supply, you could hit 10 minutes or less.
Presuming equivalent motor efficiencies but slightly lower vehicle weight, one might require 200 kWh of electricity to go 600 miles. It’s just physics.
This technology DOES make the ‘fuel’ tank bigger, but ya gotta be able to fill it.
200 kWh is equivalent to about 4-5 DAYS of electrical consumption for a 3000 sq foot home.
My wife and I (retired) are now likely candidates for a 600 mile EV based on life style. 600 miles is 2-3 weeks of driving for the two of us, combined. I recognize that NOT EVERYONE is a good candidate for an EV and DO NOT support the idea of EV mandates. ALso this time of year our residential solar system is producing about 40 kWh per day and exporting 20-25 kWh daily. Relevance is that we could charge an EV for ‘free’ daily presuming we only drove about 50-60 miles per day (more than our joint average by far). Thus we are NOT a typical household. WE have a good solar system. We generate ‘excess’ power.’ We have 300 AMP service, with an existing 50 amp circuit to the garage. WE drive the target number of miles. We have spare ICE vehicles available.
Someone better than me at figuring amp hours could tell us how long it would take to add say 480 kWh of charge, at 80% efficiency, at 60 amps (doable at our house).
When I was a kid, HEATERS in cars was an OPTION. Air conditioning was a dream only the rich could afford. Americans have gotten soft..................
Another battery built up layer by layer at near the atomic level. They work great but are handmade and VERY expensive.
Handmade until it’s automated.................
There we have it........ there are people for whom EV’s are beneficial.
EV’s are not for the disgruntled Hemi worshipers who are lamenting the death of all that is Chrysler. Nor for those wearing fancy $100 K F-150’s at work. Nor for those who drive on trips exceeding 300 miles on a regular basis.
See your Freep mail
600 miles? That’s huge!
High cost of everything when it comes to EV’s no sale sign still lit.
Feds pimping money isn’t even saving them.
;-)
My (retired) brother who lives three coves away has a Mustang GT and it has been the perfect vehicle for him. It has enough space behind the rear seat for everything he schleps around and his miles-per-trip never exceeds 60 miles round trip. He put in a 60 amp circuit for the car and upgraded to 300 amp service.
We’ve seen his ‘customer experience,’ including the quiet comfort of the car, amazing performance, reliability, and even the quality and frequency of the over the air software updates from Ford.
He also has an F-150 V8 4X4. WE do live in the country afterall ...
PS, nothing in FReepmail yet.
*Correction - my brother has a Mustang MACH E GT.
We regret the error.
60Ax220V = 13.2 kwhrs per hourx.8 = 10.56. So, about 45 hours to charge 480 kwhrs.
It will be a true success if it doesn’t need a subsidy.
Back in the late ‘90s, EPA EnergyStar standards for PC monitors assumed CRT tubes. Except for expensive laptops and small LCD monitors sold to enthusiasts, those were the standard. Backlit LCD monitors and LED monitors were a sliver because of cost, and weren’t generally available in large sizes.
They did and do use a small fraction of the energy, were lighter, don’t get burn-in, and take up much less room. When the price came down, they replaced tubes without regulations to jump-start the market.
Thanks.
So even for us, if we we ‘ran the tank dry’ it would take a week plus of daily plug ins to get it back full. Wouldn’t have to let it sit ALL day every day, but we could leave it plugged in for 4-6 hours a day during peak sun.
Realistically I observe for a fact that EV owners pretty much just plug in every time they park the car at home. We already have a plug-in hybrid, my brother has the Mach E GT, and an across the road neighbor has an Audi EV. Ya get home, plug it in, and leave it that way til ya drive it again. IT might not get to ‘full’ but you put miles back in it.
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