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RethinkX reveals the shocking exponential growth of battery storage worldwide
Youtube ^ | Oct 18, 2024 | The Electric Viking

Posted on 10/18/2024 3:07:56 AM PDT by DannyTN

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To: DannyTN

Replacement costs will be how much and who pays ? LOL


21 posted on 10/18/2024 5:00:18 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: DannyTN

When you’re out and want to charge something like your phone they’ll have charging station where you pay with credit cards like EVs no more just plug your phone or laptop in for free ,LOL


22 posted on 10/18/2024 5:05:01 AM PDT by butlerweave
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To: DannyTN

Buy popcorn, the battery storage facility fires will be entertaining.


23 posted on 10/18/2024 5:06:22 AM PDT by DAC21
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To: spincaster

Until you run out of the materials to build these batteries. Then when the batteries need to be replaced???

I wonder if this AI screed even bothered to calculate this using 100% EVs, stoves, heat, etc.

EC


24 posted on 10/18/2024 5:30:09 AM PDT by Ex-Con777
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To: DannyTN
If what they call "fossil fuel" is so limited, what makes us think that lithium is available in unlimited quantities?

I believe that nuclear energy is the way to go. Solar & wind energy generation is far more destructive to the planet, as well as, the bird population. Whose reduction will eventually produce catastrophic consequences for other species, including humans.

25 posted on 10/18/2024 5:38:14 AM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

These systems are giant UPS, battery backup systems, and make electricity very reliable. I don’t understand the hate.


26 posted on 10/18/2024 7:21:51 AM PDT by jdt1138 (Where ever you go, there you are.)
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To: jdt1138

Do the engineering economics and you will understand.


27 posted on 10/18/2024 7:40:41 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (It should be illegal to be here illegally. It should be a crime to be committing crimes in the USA.)
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28 posted on 10/18/2024 7:44:54 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Cats For Trump 2024!)
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To: Robert DeLong

I agree Nuclear is the way to go.
But grid level batteries and home batteries are going to be huge.
And Lithium isn’t the only game anymore.
Didn’t Elon announce that they were switching to Aluminum Graphene batteries in 2025?

Lots of tech out there.


29 posted on 10/18/2024 8:35:31 AM PDT by DannyTN (ck)
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To: DannyTN
I have clue where batteries are going. All I know about are lithium, and they are certainly no solution. Same goes for solar & windmills, which are worse than solar panels du to the excessive killing of birds and the pollution from the blades when their lifespan is reached or weather events destroy them.

The world is in complete controls of the bozos who think they are smart clowns, but dey still be nothing but clowns. 🤣

I am willing to venture a guess that other battery construction alternatives have a deep down side to them as well. There is a down side to everything man makes. Some just take longer than others to expose their negatives.

But it seems that there is a rush to change before evaluating them more in depth before changing to the new technological creation.

Perhaps you see me as a cynic, to which in some degree I will plead guilty to that. However, I have lived long enough to realize that every innovation has a negative associated with it. Some are small, some are big. Same take time to reveal, others happen too quickly. But when critical mass is reached, then even the small, slow revealing negatives take on a difference that requires attention. It's just a reality. Sometimes a quick changeover becomes a significant disaster.

But the demand for energy is ever increasing, and the newest consumer is AI is rapidly becoming the most prolific consumer of us all.

30 posted on 10/18/2024 1:43:37 PM PDT by Robert DeLong
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To: DannyTN

Excess energy?!!! You poor deluded fool. The plan is to ration energy to political supporters.


31 posted on 10/18/2024 11:15:15 PM PDT by 1756-L85E
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To: DannyTN

The DOD is getting into aluminum graphene tech. They bought up the entire output of one of the first movers in that space. For drones and hybrid power systems, and lasers for sure.

AlGr cells can do 66C charge rates and still turn out 10000+ cycles from 100 to 0%. They also cannot burn. Being semi solid-state they have 900wh/kg density triple Li-Ion typical 300wh/kg a 300 mile EV would then be a 900 mile EV but that’s silly no one drives that in a day most Americans drive 30 miles or less for 96% of daily total trip distance. There is zero need for a 900 mile car.

A 100 mile city car would need a 25 kWh pack as a 5 passenger sedan. V4 Tesla superchargers put out 350kw the NACS plug is rated for 1000kw. Even at 350kw that’s only 4 min to charge that city car back up. Largely irrelevant for people with a 240V plug at home it would take an hour and half at home. Typical urbanites would need a plug every third day not every day with even a 100mile city car. A 300 mile 5 passenger sedan would need a plug every ten days, or just take the 30 seconds and plug it in the garage when you get home at night.

The special part about AlGr cells is they can take crazy levels of fast charges again and again. This is why the DOD wants them for robots and laser power banks that and triple the energy density. 60C is a one minute charge if you have gasturbine driven alternators putting out 1000 volts such as the military would you can dump megawatts in seconds into all kinds of things like laser power banks, railgun power banks, drones that dock and recharge in seconds and then fly off.

Eventually these AlGr cells will make it too consumer grade and they will fundamentally change the power tools market for sure, same for consumer devices. Drills that charge in 45 seconds, same for tablets and smartphones. Even if EVs didn’t exist these kinds of cells are coming there is a trillion dollar market for power cells for everything that makes modern life possible. Sit back and enjoy the 21st century it’s gonna be a good one. Science is pushing forward with great things. I cannot wait till my 80V Greenworks has 60C cells in them with triple the amp hours the tools are already superior to any gas tool I have ever owned and it only gets better from here. The chainsaw was my last hold out but the 80V 18” shreds the 49cc 2 cycle more torque, not so much as a sputter and no fumes while ripping up even hardwood oak there is a tree sized pile of it from a whole tree that came down in the storms ageing under the steel awning. All the other 80V tools are already winners the blower is a beast too. Having one to two min ultrafast charges with aluminium graphene cells means one pack is needed not two you can charge it while you get a beer break. Even with 30 min charges the fast charger puts in charge faster than any of the tools can use it so two packs is already continuous use.


32 posted on 10/19/2024 12:35:53 AM PDT by GenXPolymath
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To: 1756-L85E

I have excess energy nearly every day. I sell it to ERCOT on a regular basis. If I buy power it’s only at night for penny’s per kWh. The not Chinese cells on my roofs make well more than my buildings can use so the excess gets sold or put into the powerwalls. Those packs have second life cells in them they came out of EVs and still have years of life left. All in it’s 16 cents per kWh to store and use power out of those banks which has been cheaper for the last two years than retail power in Texas. I’m off grid capable that’s why they exist so with the flip of a breaker I’m off ERCOT and in island mode. With some capital it’s not hard to be independent, my Tesla charges off those panels too so even if dotgov shuts down gasoline stations or there is a blackout and the pumps spin down like Feb 21 where you couldn’t get fuel anywhere. Service stations don’t have 50kw diesel back ups on site there was gas in tanks and no means to meter and pump it, and no you couldn’t siphon it not only illegal the tanks are designed to prevent that specifically. So having panels and a 300+ mile EV I’ll always have a 150 mile radius of movement 220+ days per year. One day really half a day is all the sun those panels need to fill that Model 3 up. I am always shocked that supposedly self reliant people are so antisolar it is the only way to be independent from the grid. A gas powered generator is dependent on the govt to allow refineries to operate and distribute then dependent on the grid again controlled by dotgov to have power to pump it out for you. If you say natural gas well that’s also a grid run by dotgov that’s Feb 21 showed needs electricity to also flow, propane? Same refineries as gasoline with the added need for dotgov licenced trucks to deliver it to you. Dotgov cannot turn off the giant thermonuclear reactor in the sky unless they went full matrix and put up aerosols into the stratosphere to darken the sky’s. I think its the poors who hate on individual solar because they cannot afford the system size needed to be independent and it’s envy which is a deadly sin. it is now nearly on par with retail power rates to have a Powerwall and panels for 24/7 off grid. All in it’s below 20 cents per kWh for 24/7 power and a lot less if you are grid tied and can buy power at night at 8 cents per kWh. 16 of that 20 is the powerwall just the panels is under 2 cents over a 15 year life not 25 it’s even cheaper if you have 25 year panels. Inverters also have a 15 year life but are in the 18 cent per watt range that’s capital up from per capacity not cost of use. A 10000 watt inverter is $1800 wholesale it pays for itself in a year or so at retail rates in Texas.


33 posted on 10/19/2024 12:55:45 AM PDT by GenXPolymath
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